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Old 12-02-2007, 15:36   #151
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Talk to cops, the only real, uninterpreted way to carry a gun in your car, going to the range, ect, is to have a CCW. Forget what you heard, in a paper bag, in the trunk unloaded, on the dash, exposed on your hip...
That's why I got my CCW. I asked ten different people (5 LEOs) and got 10 different answers. So, I said screw it, got the CCW, now they can't screw with me for having a gun in the car. BTW, I don't have a problem with cops, it's just my luck that the cop that pulls me over has an ego problem and knows some BS 50 year old clause that ends with me being totally screwed.
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Old 12-02-2007, 15:39   #152
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Talk to cops, the only real, uninterpreted way to carry a gun in your car, going to the range, ect, is to have a CCW. Forget what you heard, in a paper bag, in the trunk unloaded, on the dash, exposed on your hip...
That's why I got my CCW. I asked ten different people (5 LEOs) and got 10 different answers. So, I said screw it, got the CCW, now they can't screw with me for having a gun in the car. BTW, I don't have a problem with cops, it's just my luck that the cop that pulls me over has an ego problem and knows some BS 50 year old clause that ends with me being totally screwed.
For anybody that worried about it who can't legally carry:

Unloaded gun in locked container, such as a www.center-of-mass.com safe.

Ammunition separate from gun.

If applicable, in trunk of car.

Legaly in any jurisdiction you can legally possess the gun in question.
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Old 12-02-2007, 19:35   #153
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When I was a young teen living at home, 2 bad guys tried to break into our house, luckily we lived on a very busy street, they moved on after about 5-6 min of pounding and kicking at our front door. They were arrested 30 min later on the street behind us and were later charged with several B&Es.

I'm now 39 and have a family of my own. About 4 months ago, it was a hot night, my wife wanted one of our bedroom windows open, I opened it up about half way, turned on the fan and we both went to bed. In the morning, when I woke up, I noticed that the screen to the window was raised up half way. I thought this was strange and called my wife, she said that when she got up, she found our cat,which is an indoor cat, in our screen room in the back of the house. So the cat had jumped out the open window. The screen was closed when I opened the window.

I then went outside to check things out and found that my 15yr old daughters screen was raised up as well, luckily her windows were closed and locked. 3 weeks later I purchased my first handgun, a Glock 17, I will be taking my CCW class on Dec. 15th. I've been hitting this website hard for weeks, learning as much as I can in order to protect my family, and myself.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:00   #154
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A few years ago, while I was on my morning walk, I was accosted by two dogs. One of them was a stray; the other was a neighbor's dog that had obviously gotten out. I'm never too worried about a single dog - you can usually stare it down or order it away. But with multiples, the entire equation changes. I tried staring them down and giving orders, then when that didn't do anything, I slowly backed away from them down the street toward my house. When they split up and started circling me in opposite directions, I knew I was in serious trouble. I called my wife to come get me, then called 911. I was maybe 800 feet from my front door, in a good neighborhood, in one of the safest cities in the United States, in broad daylight. And in fear for my life. I never felt so stupid reaching for a cell phone. It seemed to take forever for my wife to get out of the house, into the car, and scare them off and pick me up. It was at least another 20 minutes for the 911 call to generate any response.

It was this experience that taught me that you should always be prepared for the worst thing to happen, no matter where you are. It also reinforced the fact that the police will not get there in time to save you.
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Old 12-04-2007, 20:04   #155
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After VA Tech, I decided to get a CPL but didn't actually DO IT until a couple months ago. Two guys at a gun show told me to get it before they get rid of the CPL laws in WA state, so that finally pushed me to get it done. Got the CPL in 3 weeks and have been carrying since.

I know I'm "probably" never going to need it where I live. 99% white small town area, BUT there are tweekers around these parts who rob homes, etc. I haven't heard of home invasions, but that doesn't mean they haven't happened here. Since I'm on a VERY rural country road on 5 acres, I take home protection very seriously.
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Old 12-04-2007, 21:05   #156
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Living in good old IL, we can't carry legally, so what are some of your opinions about carrying anyways. Do it or not????????????
Do what I did, and move away from Illinois. You will not regret it. Actually on many levels, leaving Illinois was the absolute best thing I ever did, and that is not taking into consideration firearms at all.

Move, but if you stay, I would never encourage you to carry illegally. If you actually have to use your concealed gun to defend yourself, the cops might shoot you out of confusion since they are not expecting anyone to be armed but them and the bad guys. That and felonies are bad, real bad. Responsible gun owners are what it takes to maintain the freedoms some of us enjoy.

Did I forget to mention you need to move?

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Old 12-05-2007, 17:35   #157
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Carry pepper spray.

Carry a good flashlight.

Carry a legal knife/knives.
Carry pepper spray. - Mostly illegal in Chicago, unless they changed the law in recent years.

Carry a good flashlight. - Mostly illegal in Chicago - A few years back they banned any Mag-lite type flashlight (metal body) over 2 (or 3?) cells. EVEN FOR THE POLICE!! Though I think the cops pretty much ignore that law.

Carry a legal knife/knives. - Most "good" knives are illegal in Chicago

Time for the quiz. . Can you list 3 reasons why I DON'T live in Chicago anymore?
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Old 12-05-2007, 17:37   #158
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Legaly in any jurisdiction you can legally possess the gun in question.
Therein lies the rub. . . .
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Old 12-05-2007, 17:43   #159
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Do what I did, and move away from Illinois. You will not regret it. Actually on many levels, leaving Illinois was the absolute best thing I ever did, and that is not taking into consideration firearms at all.
I second that motion!!

Moved about 22 years ago.

ZERO REGRETS!!! Well, actually I do like the Museum of Science and Industry, and the Field Museum, and the Planetarium, and the Art Museum, and Brookfield Zoo. . but other than that.

My in-laws moved out here 4 years ago, after retiring, and they are living far cheaper then they could ever have lived in Chicago/Crook County. .
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Old 12-05-2007, 19:37   #161
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A friend wrote:
After VA Tech, I decided to get a CPL but didn't actually DO IT until a couple months ago. Two guys at a gun show told me to get it before they get rid of the CPL laws in WA state I know I'm "probably" never going to need it where I live. 99% white small town area, BUT there are tweekers around these parts who rob homes, etc. I haven't heard of home invasions, but that doesn't mean they haven't happened here. Since I'm on a VERY rural country road on 5 acres, I take home protection very seriously.

WASHINGTON STATE - in RURAL AREAS - and you think you'll never need a weapon!?I know of a home invasion in WA in which three burly men in military fatigues came in strong and shot the homeowner in the back on his front lawn, killing him as he tried to flee. WASHINGTON STATE is thinking of "getting rid" of concealed carry? Good grief!
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Old 12-05-2007, 21:14   #162
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My father ran a auto salvage business for 50 years. When I was a kid I remember the guys who worked for him. Most of them had done time in the county jail and several had done hard time in the state prison. Dad was robbed and beaten more than once back in the 60's and 70's. Today he would have been killed. My dad was physically a very strong man. He didn't like guns, because of the killing he had seen during his two tours of duty in Korean War. He had beaten serveral of his attackers off, some he didn't but he survived.

As a little boy my heros like all little boys were police officers and Batman. They fought crime and put the bad guys away. I wanted to be like them. So, now I have a Batbelt a black and white car and put bad guy and gals in jail. Just wished I had arms and a stomach like Batman.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:49   #163
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Read the paper. Watch the evening local news. Not much of a choice, lol.
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Old 12-14-2007, 19:18   #164
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I'm waiting for my Indiana LTCH to come in the mail, and I just recently purchased my first handgun, a Glock 17.

I'm 38, so why did it take me so long to realize that I can, and I should, in order to protect myself, my family, and my rights?

I don't know why, but it just hit me one day last month. Maybe it's all of the things going on like the mall shootings, college shootings, etc. But I've made the decision, and I think I'm headed in the right direction, just a little late!
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Old 12-14-2007, 22:21   #165
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I'm waiting for my Indiana LTCH to come in the mail, and I just recently purchased my first handgun, a Glock 17.

I'm 38, so why did it take me so long to realize that I can, and I should, in order to protect myself, my family, and my rights?

I don't know why, but it just hit me one day last month. Maybe it's all of the things going on like the mall shootings, college shootings, etc. But I've made the decision, and I think I'm headed in the right direction, just a little late!
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Old 12-14-2007, 22:49   #166
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I started to carry because a couple of years ago, I was hanging out talking to some friends in a parking lot late at night. We were approached my a couple of guys, all was fine until they both pulled out there pistols (.38 snubbies, I think). The made us line up and lay on the ground. In my mind it was going to be execution style. The guys hands were shaking so much, I thought we were going to get shot because of an AD. Long story short, they just wanted our cars. Luckily they did not take mine (they could not drive a manual transmission). Sucked to be the friends who had automatics.

Since then, my first wife was NOT for CCW. My new wife is all for it!!!! As a matter of fact she also has her CCW permit and carries a Beretta Tomcat. She thinks the Glock is to bulky for her. So, it took me awhile to get the CCW permit, but I have it now and I almost NEVER leave home without it.

Before I get hammered on this..........I was alot younger then and I realize now that I should NEVER have put myself in that position. There was no reason to be hanging out in a parking lot late at night. NOTHING good every comes from stuff like that!!! I am just glad I am here telling my story.
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I started to carry because a couple of years ago, I was hanging out talking to some friends in a parking lot late at night. We were approached my a couple of guys, all was fine until they both pulled out there pistols (.38 snubbies, I think). The made us line up and lay on the ground. In my mind it was going to be execution style. The guys hands were shaking so much, I thought we were going to get shot because of an AD. Long story short, they just wanted our cars. Luckily they did not take mine (they could not drive a manual transmission). Sucked to be the friends who had automatics.

Since then, my first wife was NOT for CCW. My new wife is all for it!!!! As a matter of fact she also has her CCW permit and carries a Beretta Tomcat. She thinks the Glock is to bulky for her. So, it took me awhile to get the CCW permit, but I have it now and I almost NEVER leave home without it.

Before I get hammered on this..........I was alot younger then and I realize now that I should NEVER have put myself in that position. There was no reason to be hanging out in a parking lot late at night. NOTHING good every comes from stuff like that!!! I am just glad I am here telling my story.
HOLY CRAP MAN.............NEver knew that Scary stuff where was this?

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Old 12-14-2007, 23:02   #168
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By just up the road from the Bannister Mall. Maybe 1/2 mile or so. This was a couple years ago.
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By just up the road from the Bannister Mall. Maybe 1/2 mile or so. This was a couple years ago.
Go Figure Bannister...........LOL after looking back now at that place I am suprised we made it out of there alive! SCAREY!!!

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Old 12-14-2007, 23:58   #170
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Hurricane Rita evacuation. First time i ever loaded my M4 in my house, then I realized that I couldn't carry - not the M4, but my handguns because I didn't have a carry permit, nor did TX allow car carry back then. Followed my wife all the way through the jam-packed traffic that moved at 1 mile/hour with all my guns locked in cases on my back seat - not a comforting thing, but luckily things did not turn bad.

Got my CHL right after. Another reason was because I am not a citizen and i am always subject to checks when illegals could have just lied on the form.

Didn't carry for a long time and only did some car carry. Then one day 4 of us went to a club which was located at a far end of a very dark and deserted parking lot, far away from all the traffic. The club was terrible - no customers, so we decided to leave. Once we got into my car, a black SUV pulled right behind me and blocked us in. I could only drive forward into the club. For a long time, the SUV just sat there with no light no movement. I went to my gun stored in my console, but realized that i had left it with a gunsmith. I was sweating and was fully expecting some guys to jump out and proceed to rob us. Should that happen, I decided to drive into the club. Luckily, it was a carload of some girls.

Since then, always carried.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:23   #171
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My moment was while I still lived in WI. I'm not going to go into the details here, but since that day I always carried. You can draw your own conclusions.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:59   #172
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I was almost murdered at a remote lovers lane by a gang of butcher knife wielding Mex adults when still a kid. By a stroke of accidental good luck I happened to have my rabbit gun and a few shells on the floor of the back seat when they blocked us in and attacked, and having it saved my life and my date's life. It turned out they had committed a rape/murder at the same lovers lane a few weeks earlier. Been carrying ever since.
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I was almost murdered at a remote lovers lane by a gang of butcher knife wielding Mex adults when still a kid. By a stroke of accidental good luck I happened to have my rabbit gun and a few shells on the floor of the back seat when they blocked us in and attacked, and having it saved my life and my date's life. It turned out they had committed a rape/murder at the same lovers lane a few weeks earlier. Been carrying ever since.
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:56   #174
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My friends had gotten me into shooting by taking me to the range. It was at that point I started doing my own research into the history of firearm ownership in this country and around the world and crime statistics. One of my friends got one and I followed suite soon after.

I didn't wait for a 'bad' thing to happen to me or my friends/family to get one.

I like CCW but dislike that I have to register with the .gov to get the permit. It really is an indirect form of firearm registration as you have a person, place of residence and at least evidence of ownership.
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I was almost murdered at a remote lovers lane by a gang of butcher knife wielding Mex adults when still a kid. By a stroke of accidental good luck I happened to have my rabbit gun and a few shells on the floor of the back seat when they blocked us in and attacked, and having it saved my life and my date's life. It turned out they had committed a rape/murder at the same lovers lane a few weeks earlier. Been carrying ever since.

Good GOD! ***EDITED***. If that happened to me, I'd be one of those guys carrying a full size gun, bug, OC, tazer, knife, 2 extra mags, kevlar vest, etc....

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