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Old 02-18-2008, 01:47   #51
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:19   #52
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I dunno if they are still there... But, last time I was in Springfield (around 2005?) I went in a shop near BassPro called "Gunslinger's"... Good folks, decent prices, I'd go back.
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If you want anything firearms-related in Springfield, go by 417 Guns. In my (admittedly brief) experience, 417 Guns is run by real and decent human beings, and they'll treat you right.
These are the only two shops in Springfield I go to anymore. I've spent plenty of money in both and highly recommend them.
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Old 02-18-2008, 05:40   #53
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Hey H&K Auto .45

My Dad has been retired lets see 6-7 years now. He was a Sargent... If your friends know him his last name is Beach.

Be safe in KC Metro and thank you for your service!
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:45   #54
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I actually bought an HK USP from this a**hole a few years back. At the time, he was the only guy that had any in stock for 150 miles. Got a small taste of his rudeness on the phone. Got to his shop after a 3 hr drive, just about had to snap my fingers in front of his face to get him to acknowledge my presence. He was busy with a bunch of inbred cronies at the time
I spoke clearly and concisely with patience. Said "yes sir and no sir". He still treated me like some annoyance. Guess he kinda dented my ego as I clearly could have his behind for breakfast if necessary
Why are 75+% of gunshop owners such you-know-whats?
Avoid this tool.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:51   #55
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I would of droped the brochures on the floor.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:44   #56
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we all meet someone like that in the gunstore with the people that work there
mine was with a friend that is a phx police officer when we were looking at glock pistol for his girlfriend to carry for her ccw course that she was going to take
the guy behind the counter kept asking us if we need help and we told in a minute we would like to see the m-19-pistol that was in the case we were talking about if the pistol would be the right size for her
the guy came up and ask us where we going to shop or just look around and not buy anything
when saw the badge on the my friend belt i got real helpfull qiuckly and said that they had a lot of just lookers that day instead poeple that wanted to by
we turned around and walk out of the store with out saying a word
he took me to a another gunshop in the area and it was night and day diffence the guy said hi when we came in and said if need anything just yell and he would be there in a minute also said there coffee on the table to help oursleves to it if we wanted any
we talk to the guy behind the counter and we told him what we wanted and he said that was good idea and and give my friend a great deal with pistol and four mags and 200.rds of ammo for certian amount of cash when he found out my friend was a phx officer gave anthor discount on the ammo with throwing in another 100.rds of ammo for personal defense
i say that my friend has a better idea where to get the best serivce around
the gunshop is off the west 27th ave in glendale az iam not sure right where it is my friend was driveing that day when we were out and about have a guys days out when our girlfriends where doing the shoping trip deal
i have to say that there is gunshops and there gunshops that know how to take care of poeple
plus i will not go the shooter world anymore after the way that they treat a friend of mine
i left az in 2004 to take a job with my company in another state
i go back home every now then for the sar show and my friend and his wife now show me the diff in places where we used to go shoot and hunt in the area have grow over with houses

Capitalzation and puctuation would help if you really want us to read your posts.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:54   #57
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This is becoming humorous the sheer number of people that I've talked to since Saturday about this "incident" and how many of them have said something to the effect of either "Yeah I know Steve and he's a pr*ck of colossal proportions" or "I've had a similiar experience at that place."

At any rate its nice to hear there are better places in the SW Missouri area!

It's too bad we can't calculate the profits lost for EDI due to his attitude and treatment of customers...
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:04   #58
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I would of droped the brochures on the floor.
Exactly what I was thinking.

I've had a few rude experiences over the years, and not just at gun shops. The most recent one was at a ATV/Motorcycle dealership when I went to the parts counter to get an oil filter for my 4-wheeler. The parts guy was busy BS'ing with a friend of his, and even though he saw me standing at the counter, never said hi, asked what I needed or anything. I finally had to interupt their conversation to tell him what I needed. He made some sarcastic remark, got me the filter, told me how much, but never really stopped his converstation with his friend. Never said thanks, go to hell, or really even made eye contact with me. If I wouldn't have really needed the filter and not wanted to drive 20 miles to the next dealership, I'd have left it sitting on the counter.

A few years ago I went into a gun shop with the full intention of buying a Ruger Blackhawk .44 magnum revolver. I was probably 29-30 at the time. The guys behind the counter were busy talking to one another, and a "customer" who wasn't looking at guns, just talking. When I asked to look at the revolver, one of them told me to wait a minute. He finally waddled over and asked, "what do you want?" in a very unfriendly tone. I told them I wanted to look at a Blackhawk. He pulled it out and handed it to me, then proceeded to ask what I wanted with something like that. I replied paper punching and possibly hunting. He then took the pistol from me with the guise of showing me something and asked to see my ID. I asked him what for, and he said he wanted to see if I was 21. I showed him my DL, just to prove I was way over 21, then walked out, telling him I wouldn't buy from him if he gave me the gun. Life's too long to have to deal with ***holes all the time.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:35   #59
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Capitalzation and puctuation would help if you really want us to read your posts.
...or at least a period so we'd know where to stop!
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:39   #60
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That sucks, bbeach. I have had similar experience in a certain motorcycle shop in Washington, MO. I drive the other way now for parts, filters, etc. and have even made a special trip to Columbia to avoid these a-holes. (Hey, the motorcycle is meant to RIDE, right?)

Anyway, good to know. I get that way once in a while and have a "bad" habit of stopping in little gun shops when I'm traveling, especially in Missouri. And, yes, sometimes I walk out with a new toy!
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:46   #61
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So a complete stranger tells you that your wife is cheating on you. Do you....

A. Pimp slap the stranger

B. Shoot your wife

C. Gather more info


This must be Steve from the gun store
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:49   #62
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How about throwing the magazines across the store and telling him what you think of him, maybe embarrass him in front of his buddies a little.

Sounds like somebody needs to put this guy in his place.

Typical gun store behavior. In order to keep myself out of trouble I stay out of places with customer service representatives that act like that. My mouth will not stay shut, treat me like crap, and I'll treat you the same.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:04   #63
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I had the same experience at a place near me as well. I've bought 3 guns there and each time you buy one you get a years membership on the range.

I bought an AR for $800 something and the guy I usually deal with wasn't there. Instead there was this guy who's always there ignoring people and surfing the web on the computer they use to check prices.

After being ignored several times, I go "Can I get a renew on my membership card for the range? I just picked up my AR" He doesn't even look up and goes "That's only if you buy a new gun." I said "Yeah...I just picked up my Bushmaster that I ordered. It's new". And he goes "How much was it?" with this annoyed tone. I go "$800 (something)" and he goes "Oh you need to spend $1000 to get the free range time" Which I knew to be complete bull****.

Then he goes "I'd better not catch you SNEAKING that in here, we're not rifle rated" I looked at him and said "I shoot here all the time, I'm aware of the range rules but thanks for the reminder. I think Top Gun is rifle rated. Maybe I'll just go there from now on and not bother you since you're obviously so busy."

I've never been back and although Top Gun is a lil more pricey, they're polite and a real sharp operation. I go there for all my handguns and rifle needs.

I suppose I could have called the first place (Wolverine Shooting) and complained but I figured, "Hey you want to be a jerk? See ya." I've never been back.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:13   #64
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I'd hate to say this but most ( not all ) gun stores are very rude, and come off like snobs ( similar to art snobs in art galleries), but less "classey". This is just my opinion so dont flame me guys. Many of the gun retailers that my brother and I enter treat us like we have no business buying a firearm. My brother is in the army and knows how to handle a rifle better then most of the fat mall ninjas, and they refuse to think anyone knows more then they do. The truth is they are retail, they know only what they have to sell. I'm sorry guys but I've have very few good gun store visits. My point is that any high end retail store you enter should treat customers with respect, when they are trying to seel you a tool for 300-900 dollars.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:16   #65
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I'm beginning to see a reason why the shooting sports don't attract many new shooters...

This needs to be corrected for our own long-term benefit.

Now how....

We do pretty well f2f with folks but how do we get (all) gun shops to show a positive face?
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Capitalzation and puctuation would help if you really want us to read your posts.
An extra press on "Return" key does wonders as well.

See, I just did it.

Sounds like a gun shop I would enter at most once.

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I actually bought an HK USP from this a**hole a few years back. At the time, he was the only guy that had any in stock for 150 miles. Got a small taste of his rudeness on the phone. Got to his shop after a 3 hr drive, just about had to snap my fingers in front of his face to get him to acknowledge my presence. He was busy with a bunch of inbred cronies at the time
I spoke clearly and concisely with patience. Said "yes sir and no sir". He still treated me like some annoyance. Guess he kinda dented my ego as I clearly could have his behind for breakfast if necessary
Why are 75+% of gunshop owners such you-know-whats?
Avoid this tool.
Check out 417 guns, Bass Pro, heck anywhere but EDI/Steves!!
Well, apparently he can treat customers like this and they STILL BUY from him.....like you did. Maybe hes doing it right.

Hes got YOUR money in his pocket and you put up with it.
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Well, apparently he can treat customers like this and they STILL BUY from him.....like you did. Maybe hes doing it right.

Hes got YOUR money in his pocket and you put up with it.
Touche!
You are correct, however when somebody drives 3 hrs one way, spends $75 in gas, I decided to take the good with the bad and move on.
Maybe you guys would get along fine?
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I would of droped the brochures on the floor.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
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Touche!
You are correct, however when somebody drives 3 hrs one way, spends $75 in gas, I decided to take the good with the bad and move on.
Maybe you guys would get along fine?
Probably not, I have principles and treat people with respect until they prove otherwise.

He would have proved otherwise on the phone and would have saved me the trip. If not, I could care less at what cost or time, I would not have walked out of that store with a gun and I would have told him why.

I wouldnt have bought water from him if I was dying of thirst.

I have been known to go out of my way to prove a point, even at my own expense.

People that continue to buy from stores like that, for whatever reason, are why that guy thinks he can treat people like he does.

Because he can, and they still buy.

.....just doesnt make since.

Thank god you didnt have a problem with that gun and have to interact with him again.....that would have really sucked.
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The CUSTOMER is the entire reason why we are in business. They are not there to waste our time.

Some folks forget this.

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I was in a gun shop in N.H. I brought a friend there to look at a rifle. The owner handed my friend a brand new browning bolt action in 300 wsm. Then my buddy passed it to me to look at. Upon handing it back to the store owner he gave me a dirty look and then turned to his wife and said " clean this one up real good they got their prints all over it". What a rude thing to say to two potential customers. I won't go back. I feel your frustration.
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The CUSTOMER is the entire reason why we are in business. They are not there to waste our time.

Some folks forget this.

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The CUSTOMER is the entire reason why we are in business. They are not there to waste our time.

Some folks forget this.

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