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Old 08-10-2014, 17:18   #121
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So then, given that you've now agreed with everything that makes them the same, how are they not the same?

Do you even understand the track this conversation has taken? Do you need me to post it all in one post so you can understand what happened here? You just agreed with everything I was saying...which you initially said was BS.

What point are you trying to make that I've contested at this point?
Except I didn't agree. Each had/has an entirely different agenda and focus. The only common denominator was/is a lack of redeeming attributes.

Read post 118...again. All of it. You still don't see the obvious differences? Pretty sure just about everyone else does.

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Old 08-10-2014, 17:21   #122
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Uh, what? Do you have any idea what you're typing? Of course they're equivelent! They're immigrants coming to this country to make crime. What the hell difference does it matter if ze paperz are in order? Throw them out!



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Carry on and play your games. I grew up in an area riddled with organized crime from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. Open borders, handcuffed BP, and politicians sacrificing our sovereignty and security is a different topic than dealing with organized crime that already resides within the borders. You're intentionally trying to combine the topics, point to immigrants (mostly legal immigrants), and somehow assert that it's all the same. It's not...no matter how much you want to play your games of painting it differently. And no, I have not been drinking. Have you been smoking dope?
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Old 08-10-2014, 17:39   #123
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Thats because the wave of Italians and Germans and Polish as well as Irish immigrants happened over 50 years ago.
Bull. It is happening because politicians have allowed, even encouraged, a vast wave of illegal and fewer legal immigrants from South of the border. Then, these groups are encouraged to maintain their own heritage, their own native culture. It is permitted by the actions of politicians. When immigrants came to America in the past, they didn't see to reconquer territory, or remake America in the image of their home countries. They assimilated within a generation or two, at most.

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But this isn't even new with the people South of the border. Again, ever heard of the Zoot Suit Riots? They were worse than anything going on right now.
To compare youths of the 1940s to violent drug cartels and gangs like MS-13 crossing the border today is ludicrous to say the least. This is nothing less than an invasion.
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Old 08-10-2014, 17:40   #124
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Carry on and play your games. I grew up in an area riddled with organized crime from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. Open borders, handcuffed BP, and politicians sacrificing our sovereignty and security is a different topic than dealing with organized crime that already resides within the borders. You're intentionally trying to combine the topics, point to immigrants (mostly legal immigrants), and somehow assert that it's all the same. It's not...no matter how much you want to play your games of painting it differently. And no, I have not been drinking. Have you been smoking dope?
You've got the right read on this, jd. In no way do the Mafia and La Raza directly equate to each other. One is a criminal organization; the other a political movement. And, while there is always some cross-pollination between those two types of entities, they are clearly different. Different agendas, different focus. I explained this back in post 118...but apparently rambo only read the 1st couple sentences. The Italian Mafia compares to MS13 or La Familia (the Mexican Mafia), not La Raza.

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Old 08-12-2014, 10:09   #125
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Well actually,

A while back when I was a stupid college kid democrat, I found myself being groomed for what I don't know but the big kahouna in the dem party of the State had bragged to me that he was proud of the accomplishments of the Communist Party USA. Said that the Communist Party USA had been working hard since the 1930's getting people into the dem party and had at that time completely taken it over. Said was working on the republican party (which may explain the increase of RINOs). Well, I was always the guy in the white hat and could not tolerate the idea that Communists had taken over my party so I withdrew from the dem party and have been independent every since. I still have some friends in the dem party, we disagree on everything, but it is amazing to me how far they have come. One told me that she was so pleased with how much Obama has helped the party as with his help they have totally eliminated all barriers to Communists being qualified to hold public office. How? Obama helped them to remove the "qualifier" question in every public office in our country... what is that qualifier question? "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?". Now that is gone and Communists have been flooding elected offices nationwide. She says their and obama's next goal is to remove all of the antiquated "Oaths of office" nationwide... you know like the one obama was supposed to have taken: "I swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and will defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic." That too will be gone soon.
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I believe something systemic and programmatic DID take place in this country starting roughly 40-50 years ago.

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Old 08-12-2014, 20:39   #126
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Stormfront lingo, eh? Alright, we're not talking about religion so you're sane enough to question here. Which culture is the right culture, so one might not be a multiculturalist?
How about the one that doesn't kill gays and 'infidels' like you and I? Perhaps you believe in the multi-cultural myth that all religions and cultures are the same.
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How about the one that doesn't kill gays and 'infidels' like you and I? Perhaps you believe in the multi-cultural myth that all religions and cultures are the same.
Theres a singular culture which fits that criteria? I was under the impression most cultures don't do that anymore. Which culture, specifically, are you speaking of?
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And where did you get your culture from? Did it magically poof into existence? Or did you learn it from your family and friends? And so where did they get their culture from? And trace that back a few generations and you figure out that their culture came from wherever they came from.
Western, Judeo-Christian culture, you know, the one that birthed modern science and what we consider basic human rights, as opposed to Muslim animals.

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Technically, the British that came here way back when were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, they weren't invading another country as Mexico is doing.
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Theres a singular culture which fits that criteria? I was under the impression most cultures don't do that anymore. Which culture, specifically, are you speaking of?
Muslim ones. I know of none who have freedom of religion, for instance, as we know it in the West. Go to Saudi and tell people God is dead and see what happens.
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Old 08-12-2014, 20:56   #130
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Muslim ones. I know of none who have freedom of religion, for instance, as we know it in the West.
I think the bigger problem here is that you seem to think its normal for cultures OTHER than Islamic cultures see freedom of religion as we know it in the West. Most of the world is still pretty screwed up, no matter what fairy tale they buy into.

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Bangladesh and Indonesia come to mind.

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Old 08-12-2014, 21:34   #131
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I think the bigger problem here is that you seem to think its normal for cultures OTHER than Islamic cultures see freedom of religion as we know it in the West. Most of the world is still pretty screwed up, no matter what fairy tale they buy into.

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Bangladesh and Indonesia come to mind.
Try again.

"Islam is the state religion in Bangladesh. The Bengalis Constitution guarantees the freedom of religion for other faiths, however discrimination and violence against ethnic and religious minorities has increased since 1991. The number of Christians in Bangladesh has decreased significantly since it separated from Pakistan. Criminalizing conversion from Islam has been suggested to the Bengalis parliament. Although there is not an official Anti-conversion bill, Christians who share their faith are often violently targeted by Islamic radicals.

Discrimination against Christians has primarily come from militant Islamic mobs which have threatened Christian work, denied Christians access to public water wells, beaten them, threatened them, stolen their money, or destroyed their rickshaws, eliminating their only source of income."


"The Indonesian Constitution provides for freedom of religion, and clearly states that the nation is based on the belief in one God. However, restrictions exist for some religious activities and unsanctioned faiths. Jihad (holy war) against Christians is officially condemned in Maluku, though little is done to stop acts of discrimination and violence.

In order for a religious group to build a place of worship, agreement from the local community and a permit from the government must be obtained. Worship in homes is not permitted unless the community approves.

The civil registration system excludes those who are not members of one of the five official religions. This makes it difficult for religious minorities to register the marriages or births of family members. National Identity Cards are compulsory in Indonesia; however, people who do not identify with an official religion are prevented from obtaining a card. Proselytizing is illegal, as is the distribution of religious literature to persons of other faiths."
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Try again.

"Islam is the state religion in Bangladesh. The Bengalis Constitution guarantees the freedom of religion for other faiths, however discrimination and violence against ethnic and religious minorities has increased since 1991. The number of Christians in Bangladesh has decreased significantly since it separated from Pakistan. Criminalizing conversion from Islam has been suggested to the Bengalis parliament. Although there is not an official Anti-conversion bill, Christians who share their faith are often violently targeted by Islamic radicals.

Discrimination against Christians has primarily come from militant Islamic mobs which have threatened Christian work, denied Christians access to public water wells, beaten them, threatened them, stolen their money, or destroyed their rickshaws, eliminating their only source of income."


"The Indonesian Constitution provides for freedom of religion, and clearly states that the nation is based on the belief in one God. However, restrictions exist for some religious activities and unsanctioned faiths. Jihad (holy war) against Christians is officially condemned in Maluku, though little is done to stop acts of discrimination and violence.

In order for a religious group to build a place of worship, agreement from the local community and a permit from the government must be obtained. Worship in homes is not permitted unless the community approves.

The civil registration system excludes those who are not members of one of the five official religions. This makes it difficult for religious minorities to register the marriages or births of family members. National Identity Cards are compulsory in Indonesia; however, people who do not identify with an official religion are prevented from obtaining a card. Proselytizing is illegal, as is the distribution of religious literature to persons of other faiths."

Oh! My mistake. Here I thought you wanted to talk about cultures and religions, but all you want to do is take potshots at Islam. Even if you have to go to Wikipedia to do it. Gotchya. Carry on.
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Oh! My mistake. Here I thought you wanted to talk about cultures and religions, but all you want to do is take potshots at Islam. Even if you have to go to Wikipedia to do it. Gotchya. Carry on.
which of all the religions currently in existence pose a "real and present danger" to the world today? I am referencing the actual taking of human life, not ideological differences.

"potshots" at Islam..........that's real cute.
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Oh! My mistake. Here I thought you wanted to talk about cultures and religions, but all you want to do is take potshots at Islam. Even if you have to go to Wikipedia to do it. Gotchya. Carry on.
A bigger man would admit they were wrong about that statement about religious freedom in Islam. I'm talking about the OP, not taking 'potshots' at Islam. Do you have anything to contribute to the OP?
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