[Chris Brines]

Originally Posted by Bren

I've been around people who drink while carrying guns since I was born - very common here. I once knew a state trooper who got in trouble for failing to carry his gun in a bar. Nobody I know ever had a problem because of it. It's all about the person, neither the gun nor the drinking changes that. Then again, everybody I've been around carrying a gun and drinking has been a cop or a soldier - the average minivan guy with 8 hours of CCW training may be a different story.

Not "take a drink" while carrying? Seems pretty silly to me.

Ok well I know that seemed like a blanket statement, and to an extent it is...I mean hell, people drink at their homes, and they obviously have guns in their homes...

Out at a bar is a little different....especially because of the whole attitude people take with them when they go to bars (at least the ones I've been too...fights constantly).

And really the reason I said that is because while some people may have enough self control not to get beligerently intoxicated while carrying a gun, not all of them do. And not everyone stays "nice and courteous" when they drink either.

The thing is all it will take is for one A-hole with a CHL to get all drunk and shoot someone for something stupid, to get this right taken away as quickly as it was unrestricted.

[Chris Brines]

Originally Posted by vmann

you need to read the texas chl law for yourself and not just go by what your instructor told you....its not against the law to have a drink while you are carrying...you cant be intoxicated....and there is no difined law for that like there is for a dui....that makes it easy for them to say you were intoxicated if they want...i wouldnt drink and carry, but you need to check the law before you spew out information....

I'm spewing out the same information I was taught by a CHL instructor, so what exactly is the law then? I mean I was told, "there is no legal limit" when carrying. I pretty much interpret that as "DO NOT DRINK". I don't drink at all, regardless, so it will never be an issue for me.

[SgtScott31]

Originally Posted by Misty02

I will not deny they are rather unusual in that area, still, in the small group of friends they have from growing up there are a few others that don’t drink at all. A few of them were present many years ago when they attended their first unsupervised party, their 15 (or 16) year old friend (first time he ever drank) didn’t make it to the hospital and died from alcohol poisoning. Mine was 16 at the time. They are slightly better now, but for many years it was nearly impossible to have a drink in peace around any of them.

Life experiences, especially at such a young age, have a way of affecting people permanently. I did not witness what they did, but the group that was present and many of their siblings and a few school friends have been affected by that event to this date.

Between the alcohol poisoning and a couple of motorcycle accidents, my kids attended more funerals in a 5 year period than we attended of elderly family members in that same period.


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My post wasn't implying that I believed your kids DO drink at bars. I was just emphasizing that from my experience any time I went to bars, dance clubs, or anywhere where the alcohol was flowing, there were very few that didn't drink.

[SgtScott31]

Originally Posted by vmann

you need to read the texas chl law for yourself and not just go by what your instructor told you....its not against the law to have a drink while you are carrying...you cant be intoxicated....and there is no difined law for that like there is for a dui....that makes it easy for them to say you were intoxicated if they want...i wouldnt drink and carry, but you need to check the law before you spew out information....

Really not a "defined" law for DUI either. Everyone believes that .08% is the magic DUI number. The .08% presumptive limit simply means that if the person is .08% or above, they are presumed to be impaired pursuant to state law. The District Attorney does not have to prove the element of impairment if the person's BAC is over .08%. With that said, I've seen plenty of people impaired below .08%. Obviously there are many factors at play (sex, weight, tolerance, food, etc), but I believe that's why it's not a good idea to start drinking. It's just too easy to lead to impairment and something going south when a firearm is involved (in my opinion).

[John Rambo]

Originally Posted by eracer

So you would say that this is well-defined?

12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose.

The restaurant area is licensed to serve alcohol.
The bar serves food.

What does "primarily devoted" mean?

I know what the common interpretation is, but to me, the definition is vague.

Primarily devoted. You can be in the restaurant part. Don't sit at the bar. I dunno, I never had a problem discerning the law. But I've had to explain it to a few new CWPers.

[Rex G]

It is good to see this. Though I carry under the provisions of the FLEOSA, not a carry permit, I am more comfortable when local carry laws let folks carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, as eating in restaurants is a major part of traveling.

[F14Scott]

Just got home from a wonderful dinner with my wife. Drank a couple of glasses of wine while carrying my G23 CCW. Then, I drove home.

Just a normal night in Texas.

[TBO]

Rep. Curry Todd pleads guilty to DUI, gun possession charges

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...i-gun-possess/

[SgtScott31]

Accepting some responsibility. Not too common in politics.

[SCmasterblaster]

Good for the 14th state!