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Old 08-10-2014, 22:48   #1
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223 crimped primers. Anyone used RCBS primer pocket swager combo?

Trying go talk myself out of the Dillon swager as I'm counting pennies as of late. Is the RCBS setup a good performer or should I go with something blue? Thanks for any comment. Starting to get a good collection of military crimped primers. A growing issue I can see. Time to get a swager.


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Old 08-10-2014, 23:43   #2
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Works fine but painfully slow. Drill or drill press, chuck this up, fast & simple.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:21   #3
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This video shows how to set up and use. I bought this and it works as fast as you can put a case in and pull the handle. It's all I have used so I can't compare it to anything else.

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Old 08-11-2014, 04:22   #4
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I have one, it works. I much prefer the Dillon tool as it works better/faster and takes up less space on the bench.
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:47   #5
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I have the RCBS model. Mounted on my $30 Lee Press as a dedicated swaging station on my reloading bench, it works fairly well. On that particular press, however, the "swaging head", for lack of a better term, likes to slide out of the press shaft slightly on the downstroke when removing the swaged brass. This requires a little push with my finger to get it back in alignment to swage the next piece. Minor headache.

That said, by the time I paid for the swaging die and an extra Lee press that doesn't work exactly perfectly with the die, I could have bought the Dillon tool. To be fair, I bought the spare press after the fact, having using the RCBS die on my old press and on a turret for a while previously.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:10   #6
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I've been using the RCBS swager for several years. It works fine. If I get a few extra dollars and I'm not buying bullets, primers or powders, I may check into getting the Dillon. I think RCBS also came out with something similar to the Dillon.
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The RCBs works fine but is much slower than the Dillon,let your budget be your guide. SJ 40
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:42   #8
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Depending if you already have a SS press and how many you are planning on doing. I have both and I would say if you have 1000 or less to do I would probably get the RCBS over that the Dillon. When I was using the RCBS the case never came off the swager as easy as it shows in the video. I would have to slam the handle forward.
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:01   #9
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Like the others have said, the RCBS works, it is much slower than the Dillon. Do you have a friend that has a Dillon you could borrow if you only have a small quantity to process?
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The RCBs works fine but is much slower than the Dillon,let your budget be your guide. SJ 40
Pretty much covers it.
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:54   #11
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We are seeing brass prices lower than they have been for years...Lots of people offering brass processing services for .223 that will clean, deprime, size,trim, anneal and swage for a few pennies per case.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:12   #12
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:28   #13
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I have used the RCBS in the past and as other have said it does work but mine didn't work nearly as well as it did in the video, lot more effort.

finally settled on a counter sink in a rechargeable drill to "debur" the primer pocket to remove just the crimp.

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Old 08-11-2014, 18:58   #14
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I have one and it works ok, but it mostly sits on the shelf now that I got the Lyman case prep xpres
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Thanks for the insights guys, do appreciate it. I need to research bulk 223 brass and see where that takes me. If I can find decent brass without crimped primers, it would influence my swager ideas.

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Most of the swagers work fine, but it is a slow process. I have gone to a tapered countersink in a drill and found I can do them much faster. I generally hold the drill on my left knee with a 5 gal. bucket on the floor. Very simple , just touch the case to the countersink and drop the case in the bucket, go to the next one.
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I've been using the RCBS swager for several years. It works fine. If I get a few extra dollars and I'm not buying bullets, primers or powders, I may check into getting the Dillon. I think RCBS also came out with something similar to the Dillon.
RCBS makes a bench mounted unit sim to the Dillon, about $20 cheaper. I have one, works fine.
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Old 08-13-2014, 00:00   #18
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That is what I use. I like it. It is mounted on my Rock Chucker. I just swaged about 500 223 cases yesterday. Went pretty fast.
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Old 08-13-2014, 16:02   #19
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Check this out...


The guy came up with some mods for the Dillon, but you get to see the basic operation. It starts around 1:20. I don't think that it gets much faster than this.
I bought one a few weeks back, it works great, but I think that a "guide" of some sort should be included (or maybe a concave "flat block", the part that holds the case at the right elevation/height) to center the case in the swager. I find that approx. 1/3 of my cases are off center and need to be adjusted so the pin can go into the pocket. And that's for large cases. My 223's go off center much more often than that. I kinda made my own for 223 cases. The self stick felt pads for chair bottoms, cut to the right size, work perfectly. And for the most part, they are reusable. I just need to come up with something similar for my 30-06 cases.
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Old 08-13-2014, 16:22   #20
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Yes, love it, it makes it easy. Did 500 7.62x51 cases the weekend after it came in the mail.

I put a tiny smear of Lee Case Sizing Lube on it every so often, not even enough to see, just because everything is better with lubrication.
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