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Old 05-07-2010, 13:02   #41
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You can still use the stock factory G29 mags for these cartridges as well as the stock G29 recoil assembly.
Except that the stock recoil spring assembly isn't designed for real 10mm loads - mine shoots brass 25' away with the stock assembly.

I love the G29, but I could have put together a titanium caspian double stack in 10mm for what this thing is going to cost me after I add all the stuff it needs to be a sweet shooter.
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Old 05-07-2010, 13:18   #42
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Out of curiosity, why don't you carry your own loads?
My luck is a lawyer would try to turn the tables on me in a case of SD, that I was carrying "super killer" ammo.

May start carrying my own if things were to get crazy like in southern AZ.

I generally run the Nosler 180's at 11 gr of BD and Win/CCI LP primers. This load is easy on the Glocks and Colt, but if I were carrying my 610 I would be carrying them loaded to about 12 gr of BD or tad more.
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Old 05-07-2010, 13:22   #43
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but if I were carrying my 610 I would be carrying them loaded to about 12 gr of BD or tad more.
Ooooh sally, that's a stiff load. I like it but shoot it VERY sparingly.
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Old 05-07-2010, 13:30   #44
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whats a good after market recoil rod and spring assy for the G29 when using real 10mm level loads?
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Old 05-07-2010, 13:35   #45
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whats a good after market recoil rod and spring assy for the G29 when using real 10mm level loads?
Wolff makes the spring and I think the two piece rod. I run a 23b spring. Keeps the brass down to a manageable 10 feet or so.
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Old 05-07-2010, 13:45   #46
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Interesting thread.
I was just out shooting my G29SF for the first time-175 grain Silvertips and also a box of Bitteroot Valley? 180 gr FMJs.
The recoil was not really too bad, and accuracy quite good, especially with the Silvertips.
Didn't bring my chronograph with me, but I would imagine I am getting a smidge over 1100 fps with the Silvertips.
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Old 05-07-2010, 13:49   #47
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Wolff makes the spring and I think the two piece rod. I run a 23b spring. Keeps the brass down to a manageable 10 feet or so.
i only found stock stuff from them....got a link to the rod assy and heavy spring?
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Ooooh sally, that's a stiff load. I like it but shoot it VERY sparingly.
It does have a bark, but very good accuracy in the 6.5" N frame. I tried a couple in the C2 Contender with 10" barrel and muzzle hop was really bad. Have not shot any of the 12gr in my Glock 20/29 or my Colt DE and not planning to even though these guns all have Wolff springs IIRC 21# in DE and 23# Glocks, but I would have to check to be sure.

The 610 handles the load fine and there seems little difference between the 11gr and 12 gr loads in recoil or noise.
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i only found stock stuff from them....got a link to the rod assy and heavy spring?
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It does have a bark, but very good accuracy in the 6.5" N frame. I tried a couple in the C2 Contender with 10" barrel and muzzle hop was really bad. Have not shot any of the 12gr in my Glock 20/29 or my Colt DE and not planning to even though these guns all have Wolff springs IIRC 21# in DE and 23# Glocks, but I would have to check to be sure.

The 610 handles the load fine and there seems little difference between the 11gr and 12 gr loads in recoil or noise.
I shoot it in my G20. It seems to be fine, I'm just nervous.
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i only found stock stuff from them....got a link to the rod assy and heavy spring?
http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?...ID=1&mID=5#123

Let it load all the way and it should take you to spring and guide rod combos.

Go down to the list for 29/30/36 and scroll to 21 or 23lb spring.

I run this and have been very happy with it. I load my personal stuff, uhm, very hot.

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thanks HB, got a 21 pound spring and rod assy ordered just now.


seems the stock G29 spring is only 15 pounds?!
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thanks HB, got a 21 pound spring and rod assy ordered just now.


seems the stock G29 spring is only 15 pounds?!
I seem to recall it's 17 but maybe that was my G20.
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I shoot it in my G20. It seems to be fine, I'm just nervous.
Relax the G20 with 19# to 21# spring will be fine for service use, range shooting you might want to bump the # up a couple notches.

IIRC 17# is factory on G 20/29 a bump to 23# might be problem for relibability on most factory ammo.

Or carry a big old N frame Smith.
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the G20 is a 17 pounder as stock, i have a 22 in mine now. the wolff site had a 15 pound option....but it lists the same part number for the G36, 29, and 30 so maybe thats the standard for the .45acp

eitherway i have a 22 in my 20 and a 21 on the way for my 29.
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Relax the G20 with 19# to 21# spring will be fine for service use, range shooting you might want to bump the # up a couple notches.

IIRC 17# is factory on G 20/29 a bump to 23# might be problem for relibability on most factory ammo.

Or carry a big old N frame Smith.
Yeaaahh. 12 grains of Blue Dot over a 180 gr bullet is a big load for any 10mm. In any case I run a 22 in my G20.
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Old 05-07-2010, 18:31   #56
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Yeaaahh. 12 grains of Blue Dot over a 180 gr bullet is a big load for any 10mm. In any case I run a 22 in my G20.
You can't get enough BD into a case to even strain the cylinder on the 610, and depending on mfg of the HP bullet use you probably could not get bullet to seat deep enough to get 1.280" let alone the 1.260 standard OAL. I think it was some GD 180gr bullets that would not seat below about 1.280" or 1.290" and ended up back down to 11.2 or 11.3 grains of BD to proper seat the bullet and the rounds didn't group, they patterned.
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Yeaaahh. 12 grains of Blue Dot over a 180 gr bullet is a big load for any 10mm. In any case I run a 22 in my G20.
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:31   #59
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Hhmmm...I wonder if the bm remark was really warranted???

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There's worse things to be said about the annoyingly downloaded 10mm ammo.
I thought the comment was apt. Hope I don't get another infraction.
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