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Old 05-24-2009, 06:30   #1
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Grease or Oil?

I'm new to the 1911 and handguns in general. What's the best way to keep my Para 14-45 running at it's best, oil, grease or both? Right now I field strip it, clean it then give it at light coat of Montana-X-Treme gun grease. Is this OK or should I be doing something else?

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Old 05-24-2009, 06:35   #2
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i use oil until it's broken in.
afterwards i use grease on sliding parts and oil on pivots.
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Old 05-24-2009, 13:21   #3
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Just started using these Wilson Combat products and they seem to be good!

ULTIMA-LUBETM UNIVERSAL GREASE/OIL

I also am trying there oil and their grease. Unfortunetly because of the ammo situation I am slowed down on comparisions.
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Old 05-24-2009, 14:05   #4
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I've heard enough glowing praise for Brian Eno's Slide Glide that I'm thinking of switching to it.
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Old 05-24-2009, 20:55   #5
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I use Mil com grease. It's water based and won't gum up in hot or cold conditions like some other grease. I put oil on barrel and on the link. Slide glide is good stuff but I don't like it on a carry gun.
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Old 05-24-2009, 21:07   #6
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I use Mil com grease. It's water based and won't gum up in hot or cold conditions like some other grease. I put oil on barrel and on the link. Slide glide is good stuff but I don't like it on a carry gun.
Mind explaining why?
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:29   #7
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+1 Wilson Ultima lube. I like the consistancy and I like the applicator which makes it easy to get as much or as little as I want.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:33   #8
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Another slide glide fan here. I've used it in a 1911 that went through two 1500+ round classes for those worried about using it for carry.
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:39   #9
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I've heard enough glowing praise for Brian Eno's Slide Glide that I'm thinking of switching to it.
I've been using Slide Glide for years on all my pistols' friction points. I only use gun oil on pinned springs since oil penetrates through the coils to the pin.
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Mind explaining why?
Cary or Duty Pistols:
Slide-Glide is a grease, so it will slow down a pistol's slide-speed (compared to oil). For carry or duty pistols, protection from wear is not an issue - 100% reliability is the most important factor. For that reason, I only recommend Slide-Glide Lite in carry or duty pistols. And even then - applied very sparingly!
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Cary or Duty Pistols:
Slide-Glide is a grease, so it will slow down a pistol's slide-speed (compared to oil). For carry or duty pistols, protection from wear is not an issue - 100% reliability is the most important factor. For that reason, I only recommend Slide-Glide Lite in carry or duty pistols. And even then - applied very sparingly!
Exactly. Slide Glide is good if you know you are going to run a lot of rounds at a class but their is diff. kinds of slide glide. One for cold and one for hot. with mill com you just need one.
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Another slide glide fan here. I've used it in a 1911 that went through two 1500+ round classes for those worried about using it for carry.
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I've been using Slide Glide for years on all my pistols' friction points. I only use gun oil on pinned springs since oil penetrates through the coils to the pin.
You two are chiefly at fault for convincing me to spend more money.

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Cary or Duty Pistols:
Slide-Glide is a grease, so it will slow down a pistol's slide-speed (compared to oil). For carry or duty pistols, protection from wear is not an issue - 100% reliability is the most important factor. For that reason, I only recommend Slide-Glide Lite in carry or duty pistols. And even then - applied very sparingly!
So it slows down the slide to what extent? What is the ideal-condition cyclic rate of a 1911 with stock-weight recoil springs?

How small are we gonna split this hair?

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Exactly. Slide Glide is good if you know you are going to run a lot of rounds at a class but their is diff. kinds of slide glide. One for cold and one for hot. with mill com you just need one.
Says on the website that Slide Glide Lite is rated for 30F and up. Sounds to me, since I live in a warm climate that rarely gets below 30 Fahrenheit, I only need one viscosity.
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You two are chiefly at fault for convincing me to spend more money.



So it slows down the slide to what extent? What is the ideal-condition cyclic rate of a 1911 with stock-weight recoil springs?

How small are we gonna split this hair?



Says on the website that Slide Glide Lite is rated for 30F and up. Sounds to me, since I live in a warm climate that rarely gets below 30 Fahrenheit, I only need one viscosity.
Here North Carolina and it rarely goes below 30 degrees. If I'm carrying in cold weather, just my body heat keeps the gun at normal temperatures.

TW-25b dries out. I was going to throw it our but instead gave away a tube and a syringe of it to some guys at my last training class.
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Here North Carolina and it rarely goes below 30 degrees. If I'm carrying in cold weather, just my body heat keeps the gun at normal temperatures.

TW-25b dries out. I was going to throw it our but instead gave away a tube and a syringe of it to some guys at my last training class.
That's what I'm thinking. I radiate heat anyway. I stopped using a blanket at night back in March here in East Tennessee.
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Old 05-25-2009, 22:19   #15
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I'm sorry but if you follow the instructions Enos recommends you will have no problems with slide velocity. I must say I'm going to have to repeat that for entertainment value. Unless someone has emperical data to support this?

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Exactly. Slide Glide is good if you know you are going to run a lot of rounds at a class but their is diff. kinds of slide glide. One for cold and one for hot. with mill com you just need one.
Funny.... I've run the heavy almost exclusively with no problems. Local guy got me hooked on it a few years ago. He's a local instructor and goes through about 30-40K rounds a year with his 1911s.

Just curious if either of you two have had any problems with slideglide or are you speaking from assumption?
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Old 05-25-2009, 22:39   #16
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That's what I'm thinking. I radiate heat anyway. I stopped using a blanket at night back in March here in East Tennessee.
I don't radiate as much heat as wifey does.

Anyway, it sounds like we're almost neighbors. Ever been to a Tactical Response class in Camden, TN? I was there almost exactly a year ago. TN is a pretty state.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:33   #17
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Slide Glide goes on every gun I own. For those that have problems, you aren't doing it right. You don't need much as it stays put - unlike oil alone. I've used it on my .380 LCP - thicker than I should have - and have never had any type of failure. Great stuff...
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:39   #18
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I have used Tetra grease on my 1911's in hot weather, as well as a couple test runs with some of the higher end stuff like Slide Glide. I had good results during summer testing. I'm still using oil on my carry pistols though. It does get cold here during the winter, and I use what I know works in all weather conditions. For me, that's usually FP-10.
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I'm sorry but if you follow the instructions Enos recommends you will have no problems with slide velocity. I must say I'm going to have to repeat that for entertainment value. Unless someone has emperical data to support this?
I mearly posted what Brian Enos said about his own product, from his own website. I do not dout that it is great stuff. It comes highly recommended from this forum. I want to try it. But the information I gave came from Enos himself, to answer another poster.
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So it slows down the slide to what extent? What is the ideal-condition cyclic rate of a 1911 with stock-weight recoil springs?

How small are we gonna split this hair?
I have no earthly idea. I have never used it. Again, that information came from Enos site. I just copied what "he"(enos) said on his own site.
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