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07-06-2009, 11:26
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I still don't get all the 1911 HYPE
I have own several over the years, all in .45ACP. Yes they were fun to shoot. But honestly none work right out of the BOX and they were like a Classic Car Restoration, COSTLY.
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07-06-2009, 11:41
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Everyone's experience is different.
My $450 Rock Island Armory 1911 Tactical: 100% reliable right out of the box
My $550 Almighty Glock 22: 2 FTF since I took it out of the box.
Yes, there are 1911's out there that have a few issues. You need new mags, the extractor needs tuned, or you need a different lb recoil spring. But if you fix what's broke, a 1911 will run forever.
For me, you can't find a better handgun that feels like a 1911. The grip angle, grip width, sight radius, trigger, and overall style is the best.
I carry a Glock 17 at work because that is what we're issued. But if I had a choice and I was allowed to carry anything I wanted; it would be a 1911 hands down.
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07-06-2009, 12:27
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Mine have been great. No problems. Maybe you need to buy better 1911s...
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07-06-2009, 12:29
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I just like the way they shoot and feel. All but one (Kimber Ultra) of mine needed work to run 100%. They are all production guns from Kimber, Colt, and S&W. I have never purchased a new Springfield. I still think they are the best shooting guns ever made, and mine are all 100% now.
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07-06-2009, 12:36
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I agree that the newer polymer pistols are more reliable, but the 1911's shoot better, and have character. I like my XD, but i can't shoot it as accurately as my 1911. I'd trust my life to either, but if I were in a war, i'd pick the XD, b/c it'll run through whatever i put it up to...
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07-06-2009, 12:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gdirty5
I agree that the newer polymer pistols are more reliable, but the 1911's shoot better, and have character. I like my XD, but i can't shoot it as accurately as my 1911. I'd trust my life to either, but if I were in a war, i'd pick the XD, b/c it'll run through whatever i put it up to...
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A XD over a 1911? I guess you would take a Mossberg 500 over a LWRC AR too huh?
To each their own I guess.
To the OP, Kimber is the only brand I know of that can have multiple hiccups out of the box, but a lot of handguns have issues like these, even newer polymer guns (Kahr comes to mind). If you don't get it by now, then you probably never will. To use your car analogy, some guys like corollas and some guys like a 69 Camaro SS. To each their own.
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07-06-2009, 13:26
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For me the handling, fine trigger and accuracy are worth a break in period. My .38 Super is at about 1K rounds now and is just a superb gun.
Like a late 60's muscle car, there just nothing else quite like it.
That said, my G-30 is my serious gun, like a modern SUV.
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07-06-2009, 13:34
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I've owned several 1911's and have had zero probs, from a lowly SAMCO cheapy that will outshoot alot of high dollar guns to a SA TRP. Never an issue period, my current new toy a Taurus PT1911 is a fantastic shooter and has had zero probs either. To be fair I've had the plastic god and I never had issue with any of them either but they lack, good ergonomics and soul. It's like comparing a 1970 440 Charger to the new "Hemi" charger, sure the new one runs good but it'll never be the car the original is...
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07-06-2009, 13:35
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I'm fussy when it comes to guns. I know what I like. I know what I don't. With the 1911, I can pick the length, width, height, weight, caliber, capacity, trigger reach, sights, and a long list of other specific parts and features that fit my hand and my own personal needs. Then I can spend as much as I feel I need to in order to get the fit, finish, and accuracy I want. Combine that with a proven military and law enforcement track record of reliability and durability going back nearly 100 years, and you have a pistol with a lot of appeal to me. Most importantly, this custom fit of the pistol to my needs gives me a sidearm that shoots and carries better for me than anything else. If there's a downside, I haven't found it yet.
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07-06-2009, 13:42
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The only thing a 1911 platform has head & shoulders above the others IMO is the ignition system. Nothing can beat it. You can come close, but you cannot duplicate it. Secondarily, it fits the hand well. If the 1911 had a trigger system like most other guns it would be a footnote by now IMO.
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07-06-2009, 13:44
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The 1911 is the most accurate hand arm I have ever shot, and I have shot a butt load of different hand arms
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07-06-2009, 13:47
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You guys need to realize that Pennypincher makes a good number of threads like this trolling for drama...... pull the hook out of your mouth boys.
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07-06-2009, 13:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akapennypincher
I have own several over the years, all in .45ACP. Yes they were fun to shoot. But honestly none work right out of the BOX and they were like a Classic Car Restoration, COSTLY.
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If you don't get it, than why bother trying or posting about it???
Different strokes...
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07-06-2009, 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pleaforwar
A XD over a 1911? I guess you would take a Mossberg 500 over a LWRC AR too huh?
To each their own I guess.
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He did not say that. Perhaps you need to re-read his post?
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07-06-2009, 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gconan
He did not say that. Perhaps you need to re-read his post?
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I need to re-read what he said? I think I'm not the one who needs a new set of reading glasses pal. I'll even highlight it for ya bud....
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Originally Posted by Gdirty5
I agree that the newer polymer pistols are more reliable, but the 1911's shoot better, and have character. I like my XD, but i can't shoot it as accurately as my 1911. I'd trust my life to either, but if I were in a war, i'd pick the XD, b/c it'll run through whatever i put it up to...
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07-06-2009, 16:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deMontacute
Maybe you need to buy better 1911s...
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This.
I've had two that ran 100% / no break in required, and one that never ran right even after a thousand rounds (Kimber - sorry, okie!). Show me an auto loading pistol that is made by dozens of manufacturers and I'll show you one that puts out a turd. No reason to blame the platform.
I'm not sure you can call it "hype" after 98 years of service. Still improving too IMHO...
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07-06-2009, 16:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pleaforwar
I need to re-read what he said? I think I'm not the one who needs a new set of reading glasses pal. I'll even highlight it for ya bud....
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Oh! Got my new pair on order, they have not arrived yet.
Sorry, I didn't read his whole post!
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07-06-2009, 16:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akapennypincher
I have own several over the years, all in .45ACP. Yes they were fun to shoot. But honestly none work right out of the BOX and they were like a Classic Car Restoration, COSTLY.
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To each their own.
Thankfully, I don't share your view or your experience.
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07-06-2009, 16:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akapennypincher
I have own several over the years, all in .45ACP. Yes they were fun to shoot. But honestly none work right out of the BOX and they were like a Classic Car Restoration, COSTLY.
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Sorry , all out of giv'a crap what you think .
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07-06-2009, 16:30
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As someone mentioned, I believe he has started a thread or posted in this manner before.
Everyone always has an agenda.
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07-06-2009, 16:30
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Plastic SUCKS! LOLZ
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07-06-2009, 16:30
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Originally Posted by No Frills McGee
Plastic SUCKS! LOLZ
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07-06-2009, 16:56
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While it's true that most 1911s need a 200rd breakin, after that, all of mine have run 100% w/ good mags & good ammo, just like any other semiauto. Very few pistols are as hootable as the 1911 design. The XDTAC is pretty darn close w/ a bit of trigger work.
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07-06-2009, 17:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MD357
You guys need to realize that Pennypincher makes a good number of threads like this trolling for drama...... pull the hook out of your mouth boys.
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Let see if we can not say something smart we say TROLL....
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07-06-2009, 17:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Steve
=uto loading pistol that is made by dozens of manufacturers and I'll show you one that puts out a turd.
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