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Old 09-01-2009, 18:34   #1
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Police: Retired copís gun goes off at seafood eatery

http://www2.godanriver.com/gdr/news/..._eatery/13581/


A retired Danville police lieutenantís gun accidentally fired Monday, injuring himself and two others while they ate lunch at Libby Hill Seafood.

Police went to the restaurant at 2:37 p.m. after receiving a shots-fired 911 call.

Lt. Mike Mondul, a police spokesman, said that John William Martin Jr., 73, of Blairs, had the gun in his waistband. When he stood up, it discharged, according to a news release from the Danville Police Department.

The bullet splintered when it hit the floor, and its fragments hit Martin in the leg and two other people
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:31   #2
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Don't ya hate it when these things go off just by standing up? That sudden elevation change is a killer!

Glad nobody was seriously hurt.

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Old 09-02-2009, 07:52   #3
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Don't ya hate it when these things go off just by standing up? That sudden elevation change is a killer!

Glad nobody was seriously hurt.

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Probably a result of the 74 year old retired cop combining carrying a Glock without a holster and Viagra.
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:48   #4
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Probably a result of the 74 year old retired cop combining carrying a Glock without a holster and Viagra.
Now that's funny!

To quote Jeff Dunham's Walter "the only reason I take Viagra is to keep from falling out of bed"...

But I'll bet a shiny new quarter he was carrying a J frame S&W - not that there is anything wrong with that...

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Old 09-02-2009, 14:49   #5
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Don't ya hate it when these things go off just by standing up? That sudden elevation change is a killer!

Glad nobody was seriously hurt.

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Its the sudden change in air pressure.
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Old 09-02-2009, 17:20   #6
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But I'll bet a shiny new quarter he was carrying a J frame S&W - not that there is anything wrong with that...

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Bob S.

I would have thought that also, but I heard today ot was a 9 MM, although that is not official. I'm interested to know for sure. Someone said it fell to the floor, but I've also heard that it did not fall from the waistband.

Strange that it went off anyway.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:10   #7
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Even low-end guns are designed to NOT do that, IF they are even reasonably maintained. I saw a demo quite a few years ago where the instructor took a piece of c... old Rossi, with empty but primed cartridges and whacked the hammer spur HARD with a hammer. Surprise, no bang.

Glocks, 1911's and all other manner of firearms have been abused, tested, abused some more and retested and still, no bang until the trigger is pulled.

Now if he was carrying a 1911 type of semi, with the hammer cocked and THE SAFETY OFF, AND it just happened to fall so the Grip Safety got depressed, I can see how it might happen. Carrying a gun in your waistband in that condition, however, is a ticket to the Vienna Boys Choir just waiting to happen. Dollars to donuts that IF this is true that the gun hadn't seen a cleaning swab or a drop of Hoppes in YEARS!

BTW, if this fellow had been a CHP holder rather than a (former) badge holder, we'd never hear the end of it.

And the antis are so desperate to let us know that active and retired LEO's are the ONLY people qualified to carry firearms ...
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:08   #8
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Maybe he carried his gun like Plaxico
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Old 09-03-2009, 13:08   #9
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It was a Glock in his pocket and no holster. Seems when he stood up, he pulled his pants up and his finger went into the trigger guard and he pulled the trigger. The trigger was pulled. There was a hole in his pocket and the bullet broke the tile on the floor which is some of the fragments that actually injured some of the others.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:33   #10
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I wonder if they serve alcohol at this establishment? Or did our governor pass a bill to allow retired LEO to carry in establishments that serve alcohol?
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Old 09-05-2009, 04:47   #11
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I use a Galco horsehide pocket holster for pocket carry. At the range, I've never, ever been able to fire either my G26 or my G39 while it was still in the holster. Try it. Point your holstered Glock down range and try to fire it without removing it from the holster.

The reported incident is a prime example of careless firearm carry and the firearm owner should be liable for all damages.
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I wonder if they serve alcohol at this establishment? Or did our governor pass a bill to allow retired LEO to carry in establishments that serve alcohol?
No alcohol @ Libby Hill Seafood restaurant.
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I wonder if they serve alcohol at this establishment? Or did our governor pass a bill to allow retired LEO to carry in establishments that serve alcohol?
Nope, but congress did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enf...ers_Safety_Act
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Thanks for the info. I read every word in the article, very intersting.

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Mika's pocket holsters work well too.
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Mika's pocket holsters work well too.
If you have 6-8 months to wait. Hehe.

By the time I got mine, I had already sold the gun I bought it for. That's OK though, now I have an excuse to buy a new gun!
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