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Old 12-15-2009, 18:46   #41
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Where are you guys finding Federal HSTs? All the usual places are sold out. :(
I get mine when I get into my time machine and go back to the day before Mr. Obama got elected, walk into my favorite store and grab as many 50 packs as I can carry from the open container on the counter marked "26.99 each", pay for them and walk back out to the time machine and return to the present.
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Old 12-15-2009, 19:02   #42
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I get mine when I get into my time machine and go back to the day before Mr. Obama got elected, walk into my favorite store and grab as many 50 packs as I can carry from the open container on the counter marked "26.99 each", pay for them and walk back out to the time machine and return to the present.




I like your time machine!
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Old 12-15-2009, 19:30   #43
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Ranger 230gr +P T or SXT. Federal 230gr +P HST. Like them both and they both shoot excellent out of my G21SF and G30.
Ranger-T and HST are the newest gen JHP and awesomely effective. Gold Dot and Golden Saber are a generation behind.
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Old 12-15-2009, 19:42   #44
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Corbon 185+p-JHP has a velocity of 1150fps & muzzle energy of 543fp!

It certainly will get someone's attention!
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Old 12-15-2009, 20:59   #45
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Why is everyone concerned about the Pow'r ball shedding its jacket?
I'm not gonna reload it. It is about the only round that has to open up. No hoping it doesn't clog with clothing. No hoping that your first stage of expansion is good enough for your talons to spread out. It employs one smooth gauranteed mechanical action. It brings all the benefits of a ballistic tip varmint bullet into the defensive realm. Including devastating trauma to the target. I have killed several things with the pow'r balls and believe me it does one heck of a job. I'll trade a few grains of recovered weight and a few inches of penetration for absolute reliability of feeding and expansion, coupled with immense power.
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Old 12-15-2009, 21:11   #46
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Ranger-T and HST are the newest gen JHP and awesomely effective. Gold Dot and Golden Saber are a generation behind.
While I agree that HST and Ranger T series are top of the line, you better get ready for an onslaught of flames from the Gold Dot lovers. They are a cantankerous bunch.....
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Old 12-16-2009, 13:37   #47
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Originally Posted by Cold Dead Hands" !;14346026]All of the rounds mentioned are very good, and street prooven choices.
That said, this...
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...els8gmftsfq8q0
230gr. Double Tap Ammo bullet does a incredible 1,010 FPS.
It is a bonded Speer Gold Dot bullet, pushed to highest velocity.
It will put the most energy onto the target, 510 FT/LBS !
[URL="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTb_iOEydL6lYAVGujzbkF/SIG=124du1lo1/EXP=1260938510/**http%3A//ruthlessreviews.com/pics3/bronsonrip1.jpg
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Meh . Double tapp says their bonded 185 does 100 ftlbs more than that .
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Old 12-16-2009, 13:47   #48
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Originally Posted by Cold Dead Hands" !;14346026]All of the rounds mentioned are very good, and street prooven choices.
That said, this...
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...els8gmftsfq8q0
230gr. Double Tap Ammo bullet does a incredible 1,010 FPS.
It is a bonded Speer Gold Dot bullet, pushed to highest velocity.
It will put the most energy onto the target, 510 FT/LBS !
[URL="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTb_iOEydL6lYAVGujzbkF/SIG=124du1lo1/EXP=1260938510/**http%3A//ruthlessreviews.com/pics3/bronsonrip1.jpg
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"Nothings too good for our friends" !
Several members here have Chrono'd DT ammo and could not pull the Number DT advertised.
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Old 12-16-2009, 22:39   #49
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HST's hands down. There are plenty of reports to back this up. http://le.atk.com/general/irl/woundballistics.aspx
Not to cause controversy, but where does HST win hands down among all of that data? It looks like a good round but I doubt it will melt the innards of anyone it touches.
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Old 12-17-2009, 16:39   #50
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Federal HST 230 gr
My carry! In this:

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or this:

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Old 12-17-2009, 17:02   #51
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Where are you guys finding Federal HSTs? All the usual places are sold out. :(
Same here. Can't find any. :(
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Old 12-17-2009, 21:01   #52
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Thanx for all the help fellas. I think just about any 45 hollow point in someones chest cavitiy will stop them with my dvd player. so its all good !
Thanx Goon
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:27   #53
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Ranger-T and HST are the newest gen JHP and awesomely effective. Gold Dot and Golden Saber are a generation behind.
I'll just stick with my ole dusty trusty gold dots . A generation old can of whupazz is better than no whupazz at all .
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Old 12-18-2009, 13:46   #54
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Thanx for all the help fellas. I think just about any 45 hollow point in someones chest cavitiy will stop them with my dvd player. so its all good !
Thanx Goon
You would put a hole in somebody for trying to run off with your DVD player?
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Old 12-18-2009, 14:52   #55
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Only if they were close friend or family LOL
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Old 12-18-2009, 15:52   #56
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I think it is pretty tough to find a bad load in .45ACP. However, I plan on doing some of my own personal testing. I will post results on here then.
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Old 01-09-2010, 13:55   #57
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golddots are niiiiice!
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Old 01-09-2010, 20:37   #58
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sparly shot.
Several different types out there that are reliable, but my recommendation is choose 2 or 3 quality brands, buy 150-200 rounds of each, and go to an outdoor range and run your own ballistic tests. Take jugs of water, wet phonebooks, old heavy clothing, wood, ect. Test each type the same, then make your decision. But probably the most important factor, don't run a mag or two of one type at the range and call it a day. You need to run AT LEAST 150 rounds of a particular type of SD ammo, before you can comfortably call it 'Your Self Defense Ammo'. Make sure your weapon enjoys eating it, and there are no feeding issues, inconsistencies, ect, ect. After you do all that, then you can wisely choose your poison.
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Old 01-10-2010, 00:13   #59
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Several different types out there that are reliable, but my recommendation is choose 2 or 3 quality brands, buy 150-200 rounds of each, and go to an outdoor range and run your own ballistic tests. Take jugs of water, wet phonebooks, old heavy clothing, wood, ect. Test each type the same, then make your decision. But probably the most important factor, don't run a mag or two of one type at the range and call it a day. You need to run AT LEAST 150 rounds of a particular type of SD ammo, before you can comfortably call it 'Your Self Defense Ammo'. Make sure your weapon enjoys eating it, and there are no feeding issues, inconsistencies, ect, ect. After you do all that, then you can wisely choose your poison.
Sorry poor choice of words simply meant i would not go out and shoot 200 rounds of this ammo weekly i will test these suggetions then shoot it time to time, just to be comfortable with it
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... Once again, any of the modern JHP ammo will suffice.


Enough said.
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