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Old 12-27-2009, 08:51   #1
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New rimfire pistol suggestions

I am pondering gettine a new rimfire auto. I have narrowed it down to either a Browning Buckmark camper, S&W 22a or a Ruger MKIII or 22/45. I like the feel of the Browning but the S&W is the least expensive. What is everyones experience with them? Not if you don't like one company or the other but real expereince with said model of pistol!

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Old 12-27-2009, 09:33   #2
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Have you considered a used Ruger Mk II? My preference is the older 22/45's, but, I have heard nothing but good things about the Browning.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:37   #3
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I have a MKII, a 22/45, and a Buckmark. They're all good and you can't go wrong with any of them, but my preference is the 22/45 with bull barrel.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:22   #4
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Of those listed I have the Ruger MKIII 22/45 (and MKII 22/45) and the Browning Buckmark.

I like the Browning but it is ammo sensitive (most 22's are). It's a little thing but the top cover cracked a few weeks ago. Bought a new one from Browning.

I don't like the Ruger MK III. Had a lot of trouble with the lawyer crap in it.
I've had the Ruger MKI and MKII since 1961. Fantastic 22 pistols.

IMO, see if you can find a nice looking used or new MK II. I've been looking for another MK II for a spare. At the gun shows recently used MK II's are costing as much as a new MKIII.

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Old 12-27-2009, 13:39   #5
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We have about ten .22lr handguns, including the three you mention. Here's our take on them:

Buckmark -- the best trigger and grip shape, accurate, reliable with most - but not all - types of ammo. Price is between the other two. Must purchase an accessory rail in order to mount a scope.

22A -- easily as accurate and reliable as the other two, but for a whole lot less money. Very easy to strip, comes with two mags (the BM only has one). Easy to mount a scope, but not all red-dot sights will mount. Only possible downside is that the grip size is fairly large.

MKIII -- built like a tank, and has a heft to it that the others do not have. Very reliable and accurate, but at much higher price. More difficult to strip, but you get used to it. Comes with an extra scope rail.

The good news is that you will do well with any of them. The hard part would be to pick just one. If you are on a budget, then by all means get the 22A, which can be found for around $229. You will do as much with it as you would with the other more expensive handguns. My favorite is the BM, mostly because I like the shape of the grip, and it has a better trigger.
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Old 12-27-2009, 16:23   #6
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I bought a Ruger Mark III Hunter (Talo) stainless, with 5 1'2" fluted brl. This is a very accurate and reliable target weapon. I looked around at many makes but decided on this. I am not sorry and enjoy it every time it goes to the range. Ruger also has a lifetime warranty. Some folks say there is a problem about re-assembly. This is true but if you go online you will learn the trick. The Hammer must be fully forward before the mainspring assembly is installed. Ruger also has a video on their website. Good Luck to you.
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Old 12-27-2009, 16:38   #7
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Ruger MKIII. own 7 mags, the gun is Not For Sale.

agreed on built like a tank, accurate as a laser beam, makes an old geezer look like he can still shoot. Priceless.
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Old 12-27-2009, 17:21   #8
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Buckmark hands down. I have a standard buckmark with over 10k rounds through it, and it eats bulk ammo with no problems. Only thing I had to replace was the spring buffer (plastic cracked after about 5 k rounds)

had a ruger mk III and sold it cause of ammo sensitivity and trigger pull.
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Old 12-27-2009, 17:22   #9
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We have a older buckmark, S&W 22a and MkII 22/45 at the range as club guns.

I borrowed all three earlier in the year to use with some new shooters that I had invited to the range. After years of abuse and countless rounds fired the 22/45 is easily the most reliable/durable of the three.

The buckmark was not too far behind the ruger but the 22a looked terrible. We had several issues with the 22a, it would constantly jam or fail to cycle the ammo properly where as the ruger and browning had no issues during our session.

When I was talking to the club armourer he said they don't even bother using the 22a with new shooters anymore, they use the 22/45 or the buckmark if someone has the 22/45.

If you can find a LNIB MKII 22/45 it would be seriously worth considering.
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Old 12-27-2009, 18:17   #10
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my S&W22a did require some tweaking done to the magazine catch in order to function properly with either FMJ/JHP ammo...i ran 200 rounds of copper plated CCI minimags without a single hiccup during initial break in.... did encountered one hiccup out of 200 rounds of round nose Remington Thunderbolt. S&W22a prefers CCI plated minimags...a much cleaner burning ammo.
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Old 12-27-2009, 18:38   #11
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Thanks fellas! I really like the feel of the Browning but the price of the S&W is hard to say no to. It will be a month or so. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 12-27-2009, 19:28   #12
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I've got a Browning Buckmark, Ruger Mark III, Beretta Neos, and Walther P22.

Other than the Walther, all have been great.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:48   #13
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Ruger Mark II is my choice. Lots of aftermarket stuff that can spruce it up. The Ultimate Clip Loader works with it, too.

If you bump your price up, I'd go with the Smith and Wesson Model 41.

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Old 12-30-2009, 13:30   #14
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If you aren't wedded to the guns you mentioned, look at a CZ Kadet, too. Full size CZ feel and operation; excellent accuracy and reliability; can go cocked and locked or DA/SA.
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Old 12-31-2009, 16:59   #15
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I have zero experience with the S&W 22a but owned several Ruger MKIs and IIs.I have a MkIII 22/45 but haven't shot it yet.The older MKI and II pistols worked well but after shooting my buddy's Buckmark the bull bbl. Rugers seemed too heavy.I'm hoping the 22/45 will be the Ruger equivalent of his Browning.If not I'll trade it for one.YMMV.Good luck in your search.tom.
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Old 01-01-2010, 16:05   #16
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I have the Camper and have no complaints,hardly ever shoot the single six anymore.
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Old 01-01-2010, 16:30   #17
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I have an older MkII bull bbl. & a newer stainless Buckmark. I like the Buckmark better, but I'm going to have to part w/ both of them in the near future, if you're interested.
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Old 01-02-2010, 16:25   #18
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i plan to add a buckmark to my collection this year as well
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Old 01-02-2010, 17:42   #19
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I have a 22a-Great gun for the money
I've shot a ruger(nice) browning(nice) and a model 41(I WILL own one someday-WOW)
All are good(or great-41)-you get what you pay for and the 22a is a bit more utilitarian than the others but it shoots great and is VERY accurate
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For the money and fun, a Ruger markII 22/45. A lot of fun and easy enough to find where it doesn't hurt your wallet.
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