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Old 12-28-2009, 16:10   #1
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I can't decide between...

LMT CQB MRP Defender Model 16
Colt 6940
Daniel Defense M4 Carbine

I am in the market for AR and have narrowed it down to these three. I actually had it down to the LMT and Colt but just found a deal on the DDM4 that I might not be able to give up ($1295). However, I am not too fond of the extended rail of the DDM4.

I've looked at the "chart" and I think anyone of these will be a great rifle, but wanted to get some opinions from the crowd, first hand experience?

Any advice for this AR newb?

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Old 12-28-2009, 16:55   #2
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LMT CQB MRP Defender Model 16
Colt 6940
Daniel Defense M4 Carbine

I am in the market for AR and have narrowed it down to these three. I actually had it down to the LMT and Colt but just found a deal on the DDM4 that I might not be able to give up ($1295). However, I am not too fond of the extended rail of the DDM4.

I've looked at the "chart" and I think anyone of these will be a great rifle, but wanted to get some opinions from the crowd, first hand experience?

Any advice for this AR newb?

Get a Noveske and be done with it. You'll never look back.
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Old 12-28-2009, 17:18   #3
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You should also take a look at what Bravo Co. offers.
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Old 12-28-2009, 18:23   #4
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Either of the three would be a fine choice.
But, I'd agree with Kegel, a Noveske would be the shiznits!
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Old 12-28-2009, 18:55   #5
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Agree with taking a look at Noveske and BCM. I personally went with Bravo, just because I like building my own.
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Old 12-28-2009, 18:56   #6
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Can't go wrong with any of those. My choice would be a BCM Middy (or Noveske Recce if it's in your price range).
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Old 12-28-2009, 19:28   #7
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I have both the Colt and LMT. By far that LMT is my favorite. The ability to change barrels easily is a plus. (I intend to SBR it someday.) To me the quality of the LMT beats the Colt, an example is the front sight on the Colt.
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Old 12-28-2009, 19:47   #8
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It was between the LMT and Noveske Recce when I bought mine. The mid length gas system and barrel is what sold me.
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Old 12-28-2009, 19:56   #9
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I just bought a Bravo Co. middy and it is very nice. Shoots really well and is very high quality stuff. I got the one with the DD Lite rail on it and put an Eotech 512 and a surefire on the side on my Bushmaster lower. Very happy with it and it shoots like a dream.
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Old 12-28-2009, 19:58   #10
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I just bought a BCM middy and it is very nice. Shoots really well and is very high quality stuff. I got the one with the DD Lite rail on it and put an Eotech 512 and a surefire on the side on my Bushmaster lower. Very happy with it and it shoots like a dream.
I know a guy that's been trying to decide on an upper.
That has been one of his choices, that one is a great deal!
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Old 12-28-2009, 20:00   #11
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I know a guy that's been trying to decide on an upper.
That has been one of his choices, that one is a great deal!
Yeah if you say so, 1100 bucks or something, but I got the BFH option and the bolt/carrier group. Probably better deals out there but it is one sweet piece.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...bfh%20ddl9.htm

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Old 12-28-2009, 20:09   #12
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From years of using and toting this weapon through good, bad, ugly and worse.....not trying to spill any of the kool-aid out of the Colt cup either.....I'd say go LMT or the Bravo components.

Noveske...sure...seriously good hardware.

LMT or Bravo will serve you just as well and you can have some extra boot for necessary items.
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Old 12-28-2009, 20:31   #13
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I would definitely include BCM into your consideration.
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Old 12-28-2009, 20:42   #14
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LMT make an excellent AR. I own 4 of their standard AR's. That being said every person that I personally know that has purchased a LMT MRP, ended up selling it.

I have 3 Colt LE6920's. I have shot the Daniel Defense guns but have never owned one.

I wrote the following on another forum a few hours ago:

I own 3 Colt LE6920's. I own several BCM guns.

I have used both at work, in training classes, training at work, personal training, and in competition.

If you look at rob_s' comparison and spec charts: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...jFwPrgTA&gid=5 you can see that they are exactly the same as far as features go (BCM has one more check mark - Lifetime Warranty).

With the Colt you are limited to basically a 11.5" barrel, 16" carbine barrel, or 20" rifle barrel.

BCM is over $100 less than Colt and BCM offers 11.5" barrels, 12.5" barrels, 14.5" carbine and mid legnt barrels, 16" carbine and mid-length barrels, 18" barrels, 20" barrels, and they also include complete uppers with rail systems from KAC, Larue, Daniel Defense, Midwest Industries, PRI, and others.


There is a reason BCM has become so popular. Quality that is on par with Colt, cheaper price, outstanding customer service, supporter of the Wounded Warrior project, supporter of the shooting sports (competition & training classes), and limitless choices.



I would take a hard look at www.bravocompanyusa.com ...... superior product, excellent customer service, outstanding price.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:34   #15
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LMT make an excellent AR. I own 4 of their standard AR's. That being said every person that I personally know that has purchased a LMT MRP, ended up selling it.

I have 3 Colt LE6920's. I have shot the Daniel Defense guns but have never owned one.

I wrote the following on another forum a few hours ago:

I own 3 Colt LE6920's. I own several BCM guns.

I have used both at work, in training classes, training at work, personal training, and in competition.

If you look at rob_s' comparison and spec charts: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...jFwPrgTA&gid=5 you can see that they are exactly the same as far as features go (BCM has one more check mark - Lifetime Warranty).

With the Colt you are limited to basically a 11.5" barrel, 16" carbine barrel, or 20" rifle barrel.

BCM is over $100 less than Colt and BCM offers 11.5" barrels, 12.5" barrels, 14.5" carbine and mid legnt barrels, 16" carbine and mid-length barrels, 18" barrels, 20" barrels, and they also include complete uppers with rail systems from KAC, Larue, Daniel Defense, Midwest Industries, PRI, and others.


There is a reason BCM has become so popular. Quality that is on par with Colt, cheaper price, outstanding customer service, supporter of the Wounded Warrior project, supporter of the shooting sports (competition & training classes), and limitless choices.



I would take a hard look at www.bravocompanyusa.com ...... superior product, excellent customer service, outstanding price.
Jeff,
Out of curiosity, what is your relationship with Bravo Company? I have noticed that your photographs and website show watermarks bearing the BCM logo, yet you refer to Bravo Company as if you are only an enthusiast.

Please don't take this post as being accusative, I'm just confused on the matter.

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ETA: To the OP, all of the choices you listed are excellent rifles. If you decide that the monolithic setup is most important to you, then I would go with the Colt. If you don't care about that aspect, then I would go with the Daniel Defense. That being said, my opinion is completely subjective. You can't go wrong with the options you listed.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:54   #16
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I've got the Daniel Defense and it's perfect.
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:51   #17
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I went with the BCM middy just a couple of months ago. LOVE IT!
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:54   #18
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LMT CQB MRP Defender Model 16
Colt 6940
Daniel Defense M4 Carbine

I am in the market for AR and have narrowed it down to these three. I actually had it down to the LMT and Colt but just found a deal on the DDM4 that I might not be able to give up ($1295). However, I am not too fond of the extended rail of the DDM4.

I've looked at the "chart" and I think anyone of these will be a great rifle, but wanted to get some opinions from the crowd, first hand experience?

Any advice for this AR newb?
You will learn to love the extended rail as it allows you to put your light up front and your hand where it belongs on the hand guard. Plus the DD is a hell of a deal right now.
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I like the full extended rails like the Colt Monolithic and Stag 2HT. Seamless rail so you can mount whatever you want and not worry about the gaps for the delta ring getting in the way or whatnot.
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Jeff,
Out of curiosity, what is your relationship with Bravo Company? I have noticed that your photographs and website show watermarks bearing the BCM logo, yet you refer to Bravo Company as if you are only an enthusiast.

Please don't take this post as being accusative, I'm just confused on the matter.

Semper Fi,
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ETA: To the OP, all of the choices you listed are excellent rifles. If you decide that the monolithic setup is most important to you, then I would go with the Colt. If you don't care about that aspect, then I would go with the Daniel Defense. That being said, my opinion is completely subjective. You can't go wrong with the options you listed.
USMC03 is a regular and respected poster here and a moderator at other forums. He is only plugging a company he has had good luck with. Hell I will plug Bravo Company they are great!!
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