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Old 04-09-2008, 13:16   #1
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147gr Federal HST's are the MOST effective 9mm round available.

Even more so than Winchester Ranger-T series.

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Old 04-09-2008, 13:40   #2
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Be Serious !!!

This is so far away from reality as to be ludicrous.
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Old 04-09-2008, 13:52   #3
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I'm Cereal.

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Old 04-09-2008, 14:18   #4
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Tell you what, Have someone shoot you in the arm with one of each and tell me which hurts more.
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Old 04-09-2008, 14:46   #5
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I'll bite - did arf.com ban you?

they are both excellent cartridges... you're spiltting hairs

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Old 04-09-2008, 14:54   #6
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I'll bite - did arf.com ban you?

they are both excellent cartridges... you're spiltting hairs

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NOT that it has anything to do with it...But yes.

And while I may be splitting hairs, the HST comes out the larger hair IMHO.
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Old 04-09-2008, 15:24   #7
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And while I may be splitting hairs, the HST comes out the larger hair IMHO.
I could argue that the sharp talons of the Winchester Ranger T add an additional wound mechanism to the equation: cutting.

Based on a decision between the two loads, i'd go for whatever one is most accurate outta my pistol
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Old 04-09-2008, 15:44   #8
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If your gonna stir the pot, lets get real and just do it already. You've got to mention how it performs better than the 10mm.
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Old 04-09-2008, 16:12   #9
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Search for HST... previous threads had comparison pictures and what not along with expansion rates and retained bullet weight, etc. I prefer HST, but I'm sure Ranger has its fans as well.
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Old 04-09-2008, 16:52   #10
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Search for HST... previous threads had comparison pictures and what not along with expansion rates and retained bullet weight, etc. I prefer HST, but I'm sure Ranger has its fans as well.
Agreed. In most test I have seen, it appears that the HST expands larger and nastier than any other design, with the Ranger a close 2nd.

The 147gr HST is my SD ammo of choice.
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Old 04-09-2008, 16:54   #11
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While I hate these threads...I just gotta ask...because I'm a true believer...what about Speer 147gr GDHP?
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Old 04-09-2008, 17:06   #12
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While I hate these threads...I just gotta ask...because I'm a true believer...what about Speer 147gr GDHP?
don't forget the Remington 147gr Golden Saber as well
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Old 04-09-2008, 17:08   #13
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any "premium" 9mm round is probably going to be as effective as any other premium round. It all boils down to preferences of the shooter...and the accuracy of the round from your weapon.

The best 9mm round??? I would prefer a 12 ga revolver that weighs 10 oz and has no recoil
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Old 04-09-2008, 17:08   #14
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Either HST or Ranger T over Gold Dot any day of the week.
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Old 04-09-2008, 17:10   #15
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a handgun is to be used to fight your way back to your rifle
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Old 04-09-2008, 17:30   #16
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While I hate these threads...I just gotta ask...because I'm a true believer...what about Speer 147gr GDHP?
I feel that as they are a bonded bullet, they're more for penetrating obstacles than tearing flesh.

I'd consider them a close 3rd or maybe for a backup magazine.

Wanna see a gold dot taken to it's ballistic limit? Check this out, posted at another site I'm fond of, Arizonashooting.com...

Regular 115gr Gold Dot
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Double Tap 124gr Gold Dot +P:
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Only penetrated 3 water jugs however. More pictures may be seen here.
(Crap, it won't let me post it for some reason...)
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