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Old 01-08-2010, 11:56   #26
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Screw it. Load with what you got. Worry about the rest when you have money.
I do exactly that. My 308 ammo is sub MOA.

What kinda gun you loading for cali?
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:40   #27
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Quality loading equipment lasts a lifetime... marriage, well... sometimes not as long as a pound of powder.

I vote for the new equipment.

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Or as long as a pound of powder that's had a match put to it.

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Old 01-08-2010, 12:44   #28
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Gentlemen,

I have a LCT which i have been using for a couple of years to reload for my pistols (45 acp, 454 Casull, 10mm).
I want to get into reloading for my .308 in which I am interested at long range paper punching and accuracy.
Question - which presses do you guys use? I am looking at the Forster Co-axial, but its a bit more pricey than the Hornady LnL, Lee, Lyman and RCBS single stage presses.
Coax is a fine press; but it's no magic bullet

Paying attention to details, buying quality projectiles, a good bore, proper shooting technique will get you accuracy.

If Lee's ads are to be believed, the accuracy record is held by some guy you loaded with a Lee pounder.

http://leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/...leeloader.html

"Everything you need to begin loading one caliber. Accuracy is better than most tools because it only sizes the case neck. Guinness World record holder for over seven years."

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Old 01-08-2010, 13:44   #29
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RCBS Rockchucker here .

X2 strongest press on the market IMO


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Old 01-08-2010, 13:55   #30
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X2 strongest press on the market IMO


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Why can't we all just get along . I've got a rc because I'm not as rich as you . My stuff is all rcbs because that's what I've had forever and the have topnotch customer service . To get an x2 I'd have to buy something new and what I've got isn't broke thus no need to fix it .
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Old 01-08-2010, 14:42   #31
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If you really want accuracy, switch to Wilson hand dies and an arbor press. I bet less than a handfull of benchrest shooters load on anything else.
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Old 01-08-2010, 15:11   #32
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Coax is a fine press; but it's no magic bullet

Paying attention to details, buying quality projectiles, a good bore, proper shooting technique will get you accuracy.

If Lee's ads are to be believed, the accuracy record is held by some guy you loaded with a Lee pounder.

http://leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/...leeloader.html

"Everything you need to begin loading one caliber. Accuracy is better than most tools because it only sizes the case neck. Guinness World record holder for over seven years."

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Old 01-08-2010, 15:31   #33
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/Get a dedicated seating die... and an arbor press for precision

http://www.6mmbr.com/CarstensenJLC01.html
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:06   #34
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/Get a dedicated seating die... and an arbor press for precision

http://www.6mmbr.com/CarstensenJLC01.html
Not going to help much unless you've got alot of other variables under control. People tend to think that there something magic about an arbor press. There's not; it's a single stage press with a gear. It will turn out good rounds; but only if the loader picks proper components, and pays close attention to the detail.

People have been shooting long range accruate shots for over 100 years. Many competitions held at over 1000 yards (curvature of the earth and all) They didn't have the fancy equipment. They had technique and skilled honed over many, many hours of practice. You can't replace that with a $100 press.
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:18   #35
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Lots of good answers here.

Loading equipment (press), dies, loading practice(s) and attention to detail, along with choice of components are what make (produce) good, accurate ammunition.

The loads that I have produced for 7.62x51mm, 5.56x45mm and even .30-'06 have gone 1/2 MOA or better, because I'm 'anal' about my loading practices.
Case preparation is very important.

No particular press is 'the magic bullet'. (Pardon the pun.)

I've produced phenomenal rounds from both my RL550B and my RockChucker.
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Old 01-09-2010, 14:26   #37
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Good technique shown on the first one. Two points:

1) I cringed when he had his fingers over the case mouth while seating primers
2) Sort of surprised he didn't measure bullet runout (maybe they don't make that tool). To me that's more important than case runout.

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Old 01-09-2010, 14:44   #38
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There have been world records set with a LEE Loader and they only cost a few dollars. You will have to buy a hammer though.
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There have been world records set with a LEE Loader and they only cost a few dollars.
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while.
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Old 01-09-2010, 15:18   #40
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There have been world records set with a LEE Loader and they only cost a few dollars. You will have to buy a hammer though.
can somrone post a link to this record? i couldn't find it at the Guinness site. alas my computer skills are limited and could account for such.
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Old 01-09-2010, 15:23   #41
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can somrone post a link to this record? i couldn't find it at the Guinness site. alas my computer skills are limited and could account for such.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lee+loader+world+record
http://www.leeprecision.com/html/cat...leeloader.html
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Old 01-09-2010, 15:39   #42
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how about an actual link at the Guinness site showing this record. the links that you gave are just people saying this is so at other forums and they mention the guy that used a collet die not a lee loader. as for the Lee site that's just an advertisment claim with no veriable link to the Guinness site to verify that claim. the actual link at the Guinness site would help alot.
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Old 01-09-2010, 15:53   #43
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Bob2223 is the World Backyard Shooting Champion, and he drinks Guinness... does that count?

No, wait... his goats drink Guinness, he drinks those things with the little umbrellas.


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Old 01-09-2010, 16:01   #44
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I doubt if Guiness keeps records of every component used in a marksmanship record. I just googled their website and I must say that it sucks. There is no way that I would waste my time looking that up and it is quite likely that Guiness would not cover ever class of every marksmanship sport. They spend there time looking up other useless crap like who made the largest cheeseburger or drank the most kool aid in 24 hours.

The fact that there was once a world record marksmanship feat made by someone using a Lee Loader is well known. If you were to contact Lee I am sure that they could give you relevant information that you could use to confirm this on your own.
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Bob2223 is the World Backyard Shooting Champion, and he drinks Guinness... does that count?

No, wait... his goats drink Guinness, he drinks those things with the little umbrellas.


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I never made it to world BYSC .
Oh and I don't drink and neither do the goats, at least I don't think they do?

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