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Old 01-08-2010, 16:46   #51
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Don't encourage Cobra... this place could end up getting real ugly... you know how unruly he can get when his wife leaves him alone for a few minutes.

My casting break is over, back to the foundry... with the flat screen.

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Old 01-08-2010, 17:45   #52
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Steve, I knew you'd like that shot.


LNL = Likely Not Locked?

It still gives me a chuckle. Thanks.

I will need to find a new avatar soon enough but that one was just for you and Gio.
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Old 01-08-2010, 18:08   #53
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It still gives me a chuckle. Thanks.

I will need to find a new avatar soon enough but that one was just for you and Gio.
Yeah, we "red" guys deserve ribbing when Hornady screws up.

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Thanks for the advice. I think I figured something out today.
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Old 01-08-2010, 22:03   #55
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Straight Off The Press. Now who's home does that drive lead from?
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Old 01-08-2010, 22:07   #56
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how did you come up with 42 inches?

I have been playing with the tape measure and decided that for me 38 inches is perfect for sitting and 45 is right for standing. I am short at 5.8 so I would think most people would go for several inches taller.
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Old 01-08-2010, 22:17   #57
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I’m in the process of remodeling my small home office at the moment and I’m building a bench on the back wall. I decided to go with a 37” high bench after doing some searching on the net.

Most places I looked at recommended measuring distance from the ground to the top of your pant pocket, or the crease in your skin at the wrist with your hands resting at your side. For me, that was about 36”, but I went with 37” to get a bit more room underneath. I’ll take some photos when I get home.
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Old 01-08-2010, 22:34   #58
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Straight Off The Press. Now who's home does that drive lead from?
This one?

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That's Jack's drive.

He hired an illegal at $6.50 an hour to stripe the end of his driveway.
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Old 01-08-2010, 23:04   #59
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how did you come up with 42 inches?

I have been playing with the tape measure and decided that for me 38 inches is perfect for sitting and 45 is right for standing. I am short at 5.8 so I would think most people would go for several inches taller.
I'm 5'8" tall also. Being a process oriented, business analyst, OCD type; for the sitting loading bench height, I sat in a height adjustable chair and got that adjusted right forst.

Then I mounted my press on a temporary horizontal surface to determine proper reloading comfort height factoring in the full press arm stroke. I did the same thing for my standing gunsmithing/cleaning bench factoring in bi-focal focal length for intricate work.

The same process should work for any work surface.

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The shelf that my iPod player and powder scale is on is perfectly at eye level. I wired a duplex behind the IPod player to prevent wires all over the place. Another duplex right below it for a spare laptop.

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Lighting is easy with three twin 48" 6,500 kelvin florescents plugged into a duplex in case I wanted to change the light source.

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My point to all this diatribe is to confirm that Steve is going about the planning process the right way in getting his bench height right for him, and I just wanted to add confusion to the mix.
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how did you come up with 42 inches?

I have been playing with the tape measure and decided that for me 38 inches is perfect for sitting and 45 is right for standing. I am short at 5.8 so I would think most people would go for several inches taller.
I am not 100% set on 42". But cabinets are ussually 30", 36" and 42". So 42" is just what I consider "standard. If you custom make them then it's doesn't matter. For instance in a Kitchen I will do a 36" sink area and a 42" upper bar stool area. These tie together well with a standard 6 inch backsplash.
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If you get too tall looking inside a case to verify powder can be a pain... Even worse if you have a strong mount.
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That's Jack's drive.

He hired an illegal at $6.50 an hour to stripe the end of his driveway.

There's not an inch of asphalt within almost a mile of my place. Real men live on dirt... oh, BTW, is the recession over... where can I get a job that pays $6.50 an hour. My God, talk about inflation.

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Old 01-09-2010, 09:17   #63
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Iím 6í2Ē my bench is 42Ē With the Dillon 550 and 650 with strong mount it is at the right height for me. My Mec 650 is a little too height and my Rock Chucker is a little too low.
Most of my loading is on the Dillon, so the other ones I can live with. About all I do with the Rock Chucker is depriming screwed up primers anyway. For The Mec 650 I have been trashing over the idea in building a box too stand on. Well see when I really start loading a couple of hundred rounds back on it too decide what I want too do.
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If you get too tall looking inside a case to verify powder can be a pain... Even worse if you have a strong mount.
The point of a 42 inch high bench is not to use a strong mount. It looks like your 1050's are on a 36" cabinet. That puts them about the same height as a 550 on a strong mount. I am going to need to hold off on anything till I decide what if anything I do with my 550/casefeeder/whatever setup. If I get a 650 (just for discussion) I could set it up to be at my ideal height, no strong mount needed. There are plenty of ways to get the bullet tray where you want it with out buying a bullet tray/strong mount setup. I also find with the right countertop setup it does not flex. But a basic countertop with out proper support does flex a little to much and probably benifits from the strong mount. I may end up just ditching that whole idea and going with a more universal height of 38" (lets say), put the presses on strong mounts and then any single stage would work well on a stool. I will have to fiddle with all this before I make anything.
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There is more than a little truth in the statement, 'Man plans and God laughs'. Although I've built, rebuilt and then re-re-built many benches over the years for some reason I always settled on 40" high. Seemed to work pretty well for me... keeping in mind that they only one who really notices the difference of an inch or two is a woman. (A totally unreasonable and unrealistic vertical height demand that only Ron Jeramy can meet so why even worry about it.)

When I settled on the workable height of my benches I was 6' 3 1/4 " tall and 25 pounds lighter. (Envision a Greek warrior but make him more macho to the 4th power and you'll get the idea.)

When I settled on the 40 inches I failed to take into account the unexpected... quick, severe and irreversible shrinkage. (Yes, that too but it has no effect on my BULLET LOADING, and you can't buy a pill to increase the height of your benches.)

I have learned first hand that when bone cancer causes all of your vertebrae, (except the cervical) to collapse you get shorter... a lot shorter.

My last doctor's visit revealed that I am apparently losing the battle of the vertical war... going from the manly height of 6' 3 1/4" to just slightly over 5' 11 1/2". Pretty soon I'll be able to walk under the coffee table and check for cobwebs

My highly educated Oncologist, (I base this assumption on all of the medical degrees hanging on his office wall... although I don't know why they're all in foreign languages) probably explained my prognosis best.

He asked me if I'd ever been 4' 6" tall... I explained to him that on my way to 6' 3 1/4 " I had probably zoomed through 4' 6". He glanced down at my chart, made some notes, looked up at me, initiated a well practiced and highly professional sigh and said... "Good, looks like you're going to get there again." I can't believe I actually pay this guy money!

When you build your benches don't worry as much about the 'perfect' height... worry more about how you'll learn to adapt to changing conditions.

One upside is that everyday a big screen flat panel looks more and more like a drive in movie screen.
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Yep, I was just thinking about that. I can always make a mount to raise a press but can't easily lower the bench. I know I don't want it 36". I want it higher so that I can stand and not stoop over at all. I also konw I can easily use some steel plate to make a mount to raise any press to the height I want. If I dont want to use steel, I just use LVL and stack and glue it. Uncle Bobs post about his many presses all require different heights really got me thinking.
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If you watch the videos on You Tube of all of these people reloading on different pressís. Just about everyone one of them are bending over when they pull the handle down. The height that I have for me I can look inside the case for powder and I do not do any bending. The Rock Chucker if I used it enough I could build like a strong mount for it. The shotgun reloading Iím just now getting back into skeet shooting. As for right now I do not plain on shooting that like I use too 25 years ago. So only shooting 75 to maybe 150 rds a week of skeet, I thank I can live with the height. Gun cleaning and other things that I do on the reloading table are okay. The biggest thing is the height for the Dillon 650. I got the post from the Dillon SL900 shot bucket. I cut about 3Ē off the top of that post so the case feeder was not so high and also that turned the case feeder too the left so that I have more room too open the cabinets in the back.
I also like using the strong mount that way nothing is over hanging in front of the tabletop. Iím forever, when I need too get something out of the bottom cabinet hitting my head on the Rock Chucker.
The bullet tray. The bullets are right there. Basically my left had just rest on the tray itself and feed bullets.
The strong mount is also a mount for my halogen light and underneath for the spent primer catcher I have loaded both ways with and without the strong mount. I like the strong mount and bullet tray.
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The point of a 42 inch high bench is not to use a strong mount. It looks like your 1050's are on a 36" cabinet. That puts them about the same height as a 550 on a strong mount. I am going to need to hold off on anything till I decide what if anything I do with my 550/casefeeder/whatever setup. If I get a 650 (just for discussion) I could set it up to be at my ideal height, no strong mount needed. There are plenty of ways to get the bullet tray where you want it with out buying a bullet tray/strong mount setup. I also find with the right countertop setup it does not flex. But a basic countertop with out proper support does flex a little to much and probably benifits from the strong mount. I may end up just ditching that whole idea and going with a more universal height of 38" (lets say), put the presses on strong mounts and then any single stage would work well on a stool. I will have to fiddle with all this before I make anything.
I'm with you on your thought process. I looked into a countertop as well, but I was concerned that they can't take the resizing torque pressure.
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Personally, standing for 2-3 hours at a time reloading is not what I wanted to be doing. My bench is just over 36" off the floor with the 550b mounted directly on top as could be seen in the pics. I am 6', and sit on a 30" bar stool (that's on a throw rug) when reloading. Left foot resting on the shelf, bullets to the left, cases to the right, and go at it at a leisurely 250-300rph. Makes for very comfortable reloading. The height is perfect for me for checking cases for powder.
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Personally, standing for 2-3 hours at a time reloading is not what I wanted to be doing. My bench is just over 36" off the floor with the 550b mounted directly on top as could be seen in the pics. I am 6', and sit on a 30" bar stool (that's on a throw rug) when reloading. Left foot resting on the shelf, bullets to the left, cases to the right, and go at it at a leisurely 250-300rph. Makes for very comfortable reloading. The height is perfect for me for checking cases for powder.
Reminds of Simon & Garfunkle lyrics: "clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am."

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I'm with you on your thought process. I looked into a countertop as well, but I was concerned that they can't take the resizing torque pressure.
I am using a countertop now. The easy way to support it and make it very rigid is to make a simple bracket from below the press to some place on the wall behind it. This trianglulates the entire setup and makes it rigid. I used a spare piece of closet rod. If the countertop is going on top of a cabinet, just build the area where the press is going to mount up. Some 1 inch material connecting the top 1" of the cabinets, screw and glue them from the sides. You would have to hold them back a little because most cabinets have a bracket in every corner to attact the cabinet to the top in that area. But if you stiffen the top of the cabinet and attach that to your countertop it will translate into a much stiffer top as well. Even if it's not right under the press.
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I am using a countertop now. The easy way to support it and make it very rigid is to make a simple bracket from below the press to some place on the wall behind it. This trianglulates the entire setup and makes it rigid. I used a spare piece of closet rod. If the countertop is going on top of a cabinet, just build the area where the press is going to mount up. Some 1 inch material connecting the top 1" of the cabinets, screw and glue them from the sides. You would have to hold them back a little because most cabinets have a bracket in every corner to attact the cabinet to the top in that area. But if you stiffen the top of the cabinet and attach that to your countertop it will translate into a much stiffer top as well. Even if it's not right under the press.
Very true. The cabinets will provide the structural support and rigidity you need.
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I say that 99% of kitchens counter heights or 36", 99% of bathroom counter heights or 32" and all the bar tops I have done are at 42" finished height.
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This my reloading bench.
http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q...ading%20bench/
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Personally, standing for 2-3 hours at a time reloading is not what I wanted to be doing. My bench is just over 36" off the floor with the 550b mounted directly on top as could be seen in the pics. I am 6', and sit on a 30" bar stool (that's on a throw rug) when reloading. Left foot resting on the shelf, bullets to the left, cases to the right, and go at it at a leisurely 250-300rph. Makes for very comfortable reloading. The height is perfect for me for checking cases for powder.
Sounds just like my setup. I'm going to reload in comfort.
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