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01-11-2010, 16:37
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Took the new Eotech to the range....
Took the 1 week old Eotech 517 to the range today. Mounted on a AR15 (M4 CMMG Lower/16" LMT flattop upper). The sight worked fine and does indeed speed up sight acquisition over the iron sights. My issue is the balance it gives to the rifle, I really do not care for the feel of the carbine with the Eotech attached. Feels "top heavy" to me.
Am I the only one who feels this way? I am going to post the Eotech for sale on the forums here as I can not see myself ever getting use to the feel of the AR with the Eotech on it. :( I really wanted to like the Eotech but no go here.
I would like to make clear I am not bashing the Eotech at all, great tool but just not for me. I guess I will go back to the iron sights.
On a bright spot I got my PS90 sighted in with the compact ACOG which I have been meaning to do for awhile  What a great little set up that is.
I alos put a Kimber SIS Ultra in layaway. I wanted to get one before Kimber stops production. Seems like a great little 1911.
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01-11-2010, 17:54
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I'm really surprised to hear this. I don't recall hearing this kind of complaint with an EOTech before as there are much heavier optics people mount topside. Why not give it a little more time to wear in on you, like a new pair of shoes? Make sure you use a full 30 rd mag to start shooting with. Ballast, ya' know.
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01-11-2010, 18:05
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It Says Aikido
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I just added a 517 to my AR as well but haven't had the chance to get it to the range. How did you sight yours in?? Im thinking about setting mine dead center @ 50 yards.
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01-11-2010, 18:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aikidoka
I just added a 517 to my AR as well but haven't had the chance to get it to the range. How did you sight yours in?? Im thinking about setting mine dead center @ 50 yards.
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50 yards just like you are talking about. I can see myself going any farther than that in a defensive situation.
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01-11-2010, 18:20
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Originally Posted by Kentak
I'm really surprised to hear this. I don't recall hearing this kind of complaint with an EOTech before as there are much heavier optics people mount topside. Why not give it a little more time to wear in on you, like a new pair of shoes? Make sure you use a full 30 rd mag to start shooting with. Ballast, ya' know.
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Yeah I assumed it was me. I just prefer the simple "streamlined" feel of the AR without the Eotech. I do like the compact ACOG (much smaller than the Eotech in someways) on the PS90, I might go that way someday.
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01-11-2010, 19:34
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It Says Aikido
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Originally Posted by Ruggles
50 yards just like you are talking about. I can see myself going any farther than that in a defensive situation.
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My thoughts exactly. Thanks.
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01-11-2010, 20:15
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nothing like good ol' iron sights
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01-11-2010, 20:31
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Originally Posted by NDC187
nothing like good ol' iron sights 
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You know, that about sums up my feelings I guess. I see the benefits of the optics like Eotech and Aimpoints but for now I think I will stick with the iron sights. If the Eotech does not sell I might give it a try at a latter date.
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01-11-2010, 20:41
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If the weight of the EOTech really bothers you I recommend you check out either the Aimpoint T-1 or the Trijicon RMR. Then again, open sights is always a reliable option.
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01-11-2010, 22:10
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Or the XPS.. smallest holo sight EOTech sells
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01-11-2010, 23:00
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Rifle top heavy with an Eotech? Never, ever have I heard that.
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01-11-2010, 23:08
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I guess "top heavy" is not the right term. More out of balance than any real weight issue. It just seems to throw off the handling of the carbine. I think I will try to get use to it before I make any long term judgments on it. I really like the operation of the sight.
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01-11-2010, 23:19
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Originally Posted by Ruggles
I guess "top heavy" is not the right term. More out of balance than any real weight issue. It just seems to throw off the handling of the carbine. I think I will try to get use to it before I make any long term judgments on it. I really like the operation of the sight.
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So.... do you have any pics of your configuration?
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01-11-2010, 23:22
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I don't love the extra weight added by most optics, but the upside of the optic is too great for me to not want it on my primary defensive rifle.
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01-11-2010, 23:33
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I have a week old 517 as well on my M4gery. Didn't feel top heavy or unbalanced at all. I think it is very bulky though and might switch out to the T-1 micro.
How much you want for your 517?
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01-12-2010, 14:22
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Yeah...never heard that either. I have a 5xx (the 2xAA model) on a QD mount that I use on my EBRs...and a Leupold 4.5-14x40 w tac knobs...neither makes the gun feel strange or out of balance to me. I support your decision to give it a while - carry it like that for a week; when you take it off, I bet you'll feel the rifle is off-balance without it. Always something new, never hurts to post.
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