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Old 01-14-2010, 12:09   #26
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HMMM,I wonder why it only got 1 low rating on Buds,seems their customers are happy with their PT1911.I am with mine,never had a single failure with mine.And I have owned other makes and models I wasnt happy with,presently I carry a RIA officers size and also own a Para and a Springer.I am happy with all 4 of them.If you compare all the makers of 1911,s you will find they all produce some problematic pieces at one time or another.If I were to listen to everyone one elses opinion on firearms I wouldnt own a Para either,and its been flawless to this point(other than their finish),and I also hear Springers EMP has feeding problems also,All in all,make the decision on what you like,cause thats all that matters in the end.
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:52   #27
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...the taurus does an ok job for such a cheap gun.
Cheap, as opposed to inexpensive. One refers to quality, one refers to price.
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Old 01-14-2010, 13:58   #28
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HMMM,I wonder why it only got 1 low rating on Buds......
Uh,.....they are in the business to SELL guns not post reviews that
discourage sales!

It's still a pig.
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Old 01-14-2010, 14:14   #29
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Cheap, as opposed to inexpensive. One refers to quality, one refers to price.
yea, whatever dude....
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Old 01-14-2010, 14:56   #30
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you get whta you pay for the on the taurus 1911,

replace the lawyer lock hammer for starters,

along with the mismatched internals that you will probably never look at until something breaks on you..

replace the safetys with something a "little" better .. and your on your way to a good start ..

and ultimately if you have the change and a good gunsmith, replace all add on parts to the gun as its a good forged frame / slide for a build
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Old 01-14-2010, 16:49   #31
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yea, whatever dude....
Setting aside the intellectual contribution that "yea, whatever dude" makes, and the misspelling of 33% of that post, have you a dictionary? Do you understand the meaning of the word "cheap?"
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Old 01-14-2010, 17:08   #32
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Setting aside the intellectual contribution that "yea, whatever dude" makes, and the misspelling of 33% of that post, have you a dictionary? Do you understand the meaning of the word "cheap?"
This particular post contributes diddly to this thread.
It just reinforces the fact that you seem to be in this one just to
argue a point with NO experience of the weapon.

I argue that it's always been a PIG, it's been a dressed up PIG,
and it will continue to always be a,........
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Old 01-14-2010, 18:02   #33
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I wasn't the one that called it cheap. I did point out that cheap means poor in quality, not low in price. It's not really inexpensive...but it is cheap.

An accurate statement contributes as much to the thread as anything, and directly addresses the original question of the thread itself.
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Sorry if I offended you by saying cheap instead of inexpensive. My apologies. It's one of my carry guns and the rest of my cheap collection of springfields and rugers probably don't appeal to many here in this subforum either, just stating what experience I've had with the pt1911 like the thread stated.. I'll make sure to not clog up the 1911 forum in the future.
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Old 01-14-2010, 19:24   #35
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So long as you're on that "most people" part, why do you suppose it is that very few people find happiness with their Taurus 1911?

Do you think?
Actually, it seems that very few people find un-happiness with their Taurus 1911 as it is HUGELY successful product line.


.....but do go on as your relentless PT 1911 bashing, without ever owning or shooting one, is quite entertaining!
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Old 01-14-2010, 21:08   #36
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Actually, it seems that very few people find un-happiness with their Taurus 1911 as it is HUGELY successful product line.
Perhaps you are basing this comment on the number sold? Lorcin, Jennings, and other cheap, poor firearms are sold in large numbers...and in fact are some of the best selling firearms. Their success in sales does not make them a good firearm; it simply caters to a cheap clientele.

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I don't think you offended anyone. You made a correct statement. It is a cheap firearm. Just not inexpensive.
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Old 01-14-2010, 21:34   #37
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I think the gun snobs are just jealous that they got took for $2000+ when a $650 1911 would have been just as good.
Do you believe everything you read?

I can't boast any 1911s to compare with what's in Bac's collection, but I will tell you that the PT1911 is nowhere close to a $2000 gun. Sure they list custom "features" but most of them are done in a half-assed fashion with substandard parts. I've never seen "checkering" like this before. A decent stippling job is far easier (and cheaper) to do. Although the sights carry big names (Heinie and Novak), I'm told these are actually licensed copies and the dovetails are not proprietary to Taurus. Though I haven't yet experienced a safety failure, there's been enough individual reports to convince me there's a problem. I'll keep my PT1911AR, maybe gradually upgrade it with Wilson or Ed Brown parts. At this point, I'm more impressed with my Rock Island Tactical. Not as many "features" but a much better value in my book.

Now as to the OP's question. I would avoid PT1911s with aluminum frames. At least for a while. See how they hold up. Taurus' best production gun, the PT92, uses an aluminum frame and they're great, but that expertise doesn't necessarily transfer to the 1911 platform. Stress and wear points are different and I don't know that Taurus has verified durability. Further, I wouldn't order one. If I could handle the particular gun I'm going to buy, assure myself that all is well with it (as much as possible), then I'd feel better about it.
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Old 01-14-2010, 21:37   #38
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It looks like a badass pellet pistol.
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Old 01-14-2010, 21:52   #39
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Actually, it seems that very few people find un-happiness with their Taurus 1911 as it is HUGELY successful product line.


.....but do go on as your relentless PT 1911 bashing, without ever owning or shooting one, is quite entertaining!
There are a lot of people just as willing to believe marketing hype as you are. There are much better guns. In fact, there are much better guns for the same price. It appears that many people still think they can get something for nothing, and have to learn the hard way.

And as far as the lack of experience part, I have as much experience with them as anybody here. I did the paperwork on 12 of them when they sold. Then I did the paperwork to return half of them to the factory to be rebuilt into a working product, and they took their time getting them back to us. Then I had to return one again so they could try a third time, which took even longer. Nobody had put 1,000 rounds through them at that point. Crappy gun. Crappy company. No thanks.
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Old 01-14-2010, 22:08   #40
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a friend of mine bought a PT1911 when i got my SA Milspec. he boasted about all of the custom features but i felt that my milspec was actually a better fitted gun. we paid about the same price initially but he had to replace the sights and safeties on his as they fell off. both of us actually shot the milspec better as well. my gun has over 2K rounds through it and his has 200. hes now trying to trade it off.

i think Taurus does a good job marketing to those who dont really know much about the 1911 platform in the first place.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:16   #41
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a friend of mine bought a PT1911 when i got my SA Milspec. he boasted about all of the custom features but i felt that my milspec was actually a better fitted gun.
The SA is a much better fitted 1911.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:08   #42
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My dad recently bought a blued PT1911 from a coworker for $300 and after handling it I was impressed by the action. The Slide ran super smooth on the rails and the trigger wasn't bad. The hammer sucks and the finish on the safety, grips safety, and slide stop dont match the gun for ****. They have a purplish hue to them like they've been colored with a black sharpie. overall not a bad gun for $300 but I personally wouldn't give much more for it.
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Old 01-15-2010, 10:55   #43
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My dad recently bought a blued PT1911 from a coworker for $300 and after handling it I was impressed by the action. The Slide ran super smooth on the rails and the trigger wasn't bad. The hammer sucks and the finish on the safety, grips safety, and slide stop dont match the gun for ****. They have a purplish hue to them like they've been colored with a black sharpie. overall not a bad gun for $300 but I personally wouldn't give much more for it.
Unfortunately I have seen it creeping up inot the 700s lately in some shops. I think that unless they can get it back down to soemthing similar to a RIA in price, they arent worth it.
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Old 01-15-2010, 18:12   #44
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Bought my PT1911 Stainless about 1 year ago has about 1500 rounds through it and has been absolutely perfect. My buddy got one before I did and his also has been absolutely perfect.

I won't debate fit and finish but as far as accuracy and reliability I have had absolutely no issues.

It seems every time BAC replies about PT1911 threads he hates the Taurus more and more. I remember he didn't have so much hate when I was asking about them a year ago. BAC, did you have some bad experience with yours. How many rounds do you have through yours?
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I don't care for the aluminum frame. I prefer the models that are all steel because thet are one of the easiest pistols to shoot well.

Also, I have no complaints about my PT1911. I like it so well that I have plans to get one in 38 Super in the near future.
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Bac does seem inconsistent on his comments at times. Fusion is another company he has said positive things and other times he has said negative things about them. There isn't a Gun company or Smith you can't find fault with as well as positive things. Be it customer service, fit and finish, price etc.
If you like brand x gun or smith x built gun and like it and enjoy shooting it thats all that matters.
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Bought my PT1911 Stainless about 1 year ago has about 1500 rounds through it and has been absolutely perfect. My buddy got one before I did and his also has been absolutely perfect.

I won't debate fit and finish but as far as accuracy and reliability I have had absolutely no issues.

It seems every time BAC replies about PT1911 threads he hates the Taurus more and more. I remember he didn't have so much hate when I was asking about them a year ago. BAC, did you have some bad experience with yours. How many rounds do you have through yours?
I think Bac is the same as I am on that, if someone says "I got a taurus with X amount of rounds and its a good accurate gun" bac would say the same thing I would, congrats you got a good one. When someone starts to compare it to a 2000 dollar gun, well, thats a stupid statement, and deserves a response accordingly.
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Bac does seem inconsistent on his comments at times. Fusion is another company he has said positive things and other times he has said negative things about them. There isn't a Gun company or Smith you can't find fault with as well as positive things. Be it customer service, fit and finish, price etc.
If you like brand x gun or smith x built gun and like it and enjoy shooting it thats all that matters.
Thats because different models from a same manufacturer will have differing levels of quality. Sig, Para, etc. all suffer from this same situation. You cant say that all models by a manufacturer are perfect, its just not true.
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I think Bac is the same as I am on that, if someone says "I got a taurus with X amount of rounds and its a good accurate gun" bac would say the same thing I would, congrats you got a good one. When someone starts to compare it to a 2000 dollar gun, well, thats a stupid statement, and deserves a response accordingly.
Agreed

Thats because different models from a same manufacturer will have differing levels of quality. Sig, Para, etc. all suffer from this same situation. You cant say that all models by a manufacturer are perfect, its just not true.
Thats why I said "There isn't a Gun company or Smith you can't find fault with as well as positive things. Be it customer service, fit and finish, price etc."
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Cheap is relative. For some folks... $500 is not much money. For others it's a week's pay. From my perspective, if now looking for a 1911, I'd think really hard before I bought a new Taurus at anything close to retail. There are many very good 1911 pistols on the market that are excellent choices for the same amount of money. After a good bit of looking around I recently bought a Springfield Mil Spec for $400 OTD. This pistol was bought in a retail shop! When bought it showed no signs of having fired more than a magazine of rounds. It was virtually new in every respect. It now has 500 trouble free rounds down the tube. If there is ever a problem, Springfield offers excellent customer service. If you are looking for a 1911, go slow... think about what you want in your pistol and what you want to do with it. Then shop for the pistol that will meet your needs. Don't let anyone's advertising hype or opinion drive your decision. When all is said and done, it's your money... buy what will best satisfy you. Sincerely. Brucev.
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Bac does seem inconsistent on his comments at times. Fusion is another company he has said positive things and other times he has said negative things about them. There isn't a Gun company or Smith you can't find fault with as well as positive things. Be it customer service, fit and finish, price etc.
If you like brand x gun or smith x built gun and like it and enjoy shooting it thats all that matters.
Actually, I'm very consistent. It depends one what you're comparing it to. I think Fusion compares well to most production 1911s, but when someone starts comparing them to Baer or Brown, that's when I blow the whistle.

Its all relative, if that makes sense.

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