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Old 02-21-2010, 05:35   #1
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Orlando, FL - "NRA gun instructor shoots student by accident"


NRA gun instructor shoots student by accident
Instructor’s gun goes off, striking student in foot
Eloísa Ruano González, Orlando Sentinel
12:24 a.m. EST, February 21, 2010

A gun instructor accidently shot a student in the foot Saturday during an NRA class to receive certification to carry a concealed weapon, Orlando police said.

Robert Frauman Jr., 50, was taken to Florida Hospital after instructor Michael Phillips' firearm discharged about 11:45 a.m., police said.

Phillips, 32, could not be reached for comment. The accident happened at Summit Church, located in a former movie theater near he Fashion Square mall.

The bullet went through a table before it hit Frauman, said Kristy-Lee Lawley, the church's communications director. She said Frauman, a member of the church, was "recovering well" and the bullet didn't break any bones.

Frauman was one of three students in the class, which was not a church-sponsored event, Lawley said. She said the church offered an upstairs conference room for free after some church members requested to have the class there. Lawley said the church is empty on Saturdays and this was the first class of its kind there.

"We won't be having anything like that in our church in the future," Lawley said.

The church with 2,500 members is headed by Pastor Isaac Hunter, son of the Rev. Joel Hunter, senior pastor of the Longwood-based megachurch Northland, A Church Distributed. The churches are not affiliated.

The NRA has a rule against bringing ammunition into a class, said Tom Wagner, a NRA instructor in Orlando who was not involved in Saturday's shooting. He said the association has "no problem yanking a certification if the rules are being broken."

This was not the first time something's gone wrong during a gun demonstration in Orlando. In 2004, a special agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration shot himself in the thigh with a .40-caliber Glock pistol while talking to schoolchildren about gun safety.

Eloísa Ruano González can be reached at or 407-650-6673.

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Old 02-21-2010, 20:03   #2
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I was going to post this, but you beat me to it. Anyone know how/what happened?
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Old 02-21-2010, 20:44   #3
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I was going to post this, but you beat me to it. Anyone know how/what happened?

Well knowing some NRA guys here in FL I'm going assume he shot that guy in the foot on purpose for some reason or another. But seriously I read it the day it happened and its not good news for any of us really... That DEA agent who shot himself in the video thats on youtube was in Orlando as well... umm... I think I'm ready to start taking some cert courses to train. I think at the least my inability to shoot myself or others in the foot would be a great start.
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