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Old 01-23-2010, 04:40   #1
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CCW Ammo

What do you guys carry in your CCW? What do you guys suggest for when I begin to carry? (I will be getting the Glock 26).
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:04   #2
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What I carry in my two G19s and my G26 is the Federal 115JHP+P+ load (product# 9BPLE). Why you may ask? First, it functions flawlessly in my pistols, second it's accurate, third it has a proven street record (Illinois State Police & Border Patrol to name a few who has used it successfully), and lastly I feel that this load has the least possibility of exiting an attacker & to go on to become a down range hazard.

It's quite hard to suggest a defensive load to you without knowing your surroundings and under what circumstances you may have to use your firearm. But I would hazard to tell you to stick with the middle of the road 124 grain JHP, either standard or +P pressure would be fine. Speer Gold Dot, Remington Golden Saber, Federal HST or Winchester Bonded PDX1 should be fine as long as they function 100% in your G26.

That's just my $0.02 worth of opinion.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:06   #3
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After spending considerable time investigating the whole "best ammo" issue, I came to the conclusion that I would stockpile Ranger and HST. I'm somewhat partial to 'heavy for caliber' so I like these loads in 147 or at least 124-127. I'm currently carrying 127+p+ in my G26 (hot round to compensate for short barrel) and HST 147 in my G17.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:25   #4
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I like the 124gr+P varieties in the G26. Right now, it's loaded w/ BH 124grXTP. They make 1220fps from the short tube, affordable, accurate, expands well & penetrates deep. There may be "better", but you'll have to measure it w/ calipers.
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:19   #5
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Winchester Ranger 127 gr +p+ A) its issued B) is said to loose little velocity from short barrels C) is said to be resonably good D) its issued
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:45   #6
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I like the 124gr+P varieties in the G26. Right now, it's loaded w/ BH 124grXTP. They make 1220fps from the short tube, affordable, accurate, expands well & penetrates deep. There may be "better", but you'll have to measure it w/ calipers.
Is this a verified velocity or are you using factory listings? And does BH mean Black Hills?
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:46   #7
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Winchester Ranger 127 gr +p+ A) its issued B) is said to loose little velocity from short barrels C) is said to be resonably good D) its issued
THis doesn't have the Win 127gr+P+, but gives you an idea what kind of vel loss to expect when going to the sorter bbls.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9mmluger.html
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THis doesn't have the Win 127gr+P+, but gives you an idea what kind of vel loss to expect when going to the sorter bbls.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9mmluger.html



Thanks Very interesting reading. I remain intrigued that sometimes a longer barrel can slow down some handgun rounds and mostly they keep getting faster the more barrel there is.

This is what I have read about the Ranger http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/H...Winchester.htm

I can't spell chronograph let alone use one, so anything I know about formal ballistics comes second hand at best.


I will readily admit though the posts from this thread http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1165386
seem to suggest that the specific round may not be nearly as important as we sometimes think. Some of my limited street experience echoes this.
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A couple of years ago I stockpiled some Federal HST in 147 grain after running some personal tests it seemed to work in all my guns, have good expansion, penetration and recoil. I used to run it in my G26 without any issues but these days my primary carry guns are Walther P99's or P99C which is similar to a G26. In every 9mm gun I tried, this loading worked well and zero reliability issues.

I suspect the ranger or Gold Dot would meet your needs too. Like I said, I tried a few different weights and types and the HST 147 seemed the best for me so when I got a somewhat decent price on some I snatched a bunch. I suspect this will be my carry load for quite a few years.
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Old 01-23-2010, 16:07   #12
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What do you guys carry in your CCW?

In my Glock 17 (and 19): the 9mm Hornady 147 gr. TAP "CQ" XTP JHP (#90285)

In my HK USP45: the .45ACP Hornady 230 gr. XTP JHP (+P) (#9096)

As for what you should carry; you'll need to make that determination for yourself after researching the choice.

Lotsa contention as to what constitutes "best" and most of that lies upon environmental conditions and personal perception (aka: "confidence").

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Old 01-23-2010, 16:10   #13
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Isn't +P+ bad for your Glock barrel? Too much pressure?
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Old 01-23-2010, 16:43   #14
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Isn't +P+ bad for your Glock barrel? Too much pressure?

I have no doubt that using +p+ ammo exclusively would wear out my Glock faster, including the barrel. That having been said lets say I could expect a life of 50000 rounds of regular ammo(probably conservative) and +p+ ammo reduced its life in half, 25000 rounds. If I scammed half of that from ammo work (incredibly optimistic) so I only had to buy say 12500 rounds of Ranger at lets say fifteen dollars ($15) a box of 50 (maybe slightly optimistic), if my arithmetic is correct, I would have sunk $3750 into ammo to shoot out a gun I have a touch less than 400 into.
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I'd be AMAZED if any pistol, even Glocks, would survive 25,000 rounds of +P+.
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:27   #16
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Is this a verified velocity or are you using factory listings? And does BH mean Black Hills?
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Thanks guys, I've been doing my homework, and shot some of the following ammo out of my buddies G17c:

Federal Hydrashock 124 Gr JHP
Speer Gold Dot 124 Gr +P
Horandy 124 and 147 Gr JHP
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