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Old 01-30-2010, 18:10   #1
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Who sells the Barnes XPB rounds?

From looking at ATK's website it looks like a Federal loading. They have a 155gr .40 round with the Barnes X bullet. I guess officially called the "XPB". I would imagine anyone who sells the HST would have access to it but I've never seen it advertised as for sale. Does anyone you GT'ers know of carry these rounds (the 155gr .40 ones specifically)?
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Old 01-30-2010, 19:36   #2
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The Federal XPB ammo is a new product.

http://le.atk.com/general/federalpro...lexpander.aspx

Corbon makes a lot of loads using the XPB bullet and I believe Black Hills is making a 9mm load, but other than that, those are the only companies (Corbon & now Federal) that I'm familiar with that load a .40 XPB round.
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Old 01-30-2010, 19:46   #3
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wow!

federal loads these a lot milder than corbon.


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Old 01-30-2010, 20:19   #4
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wow!

federal loads these a lot milder than corbon.


Cor Bon loads a 140gr bullet and Federal loads a 155gr one so I'd imagine the Cor Bon round will be a little faster given the lighter weight and assuming the same pressure envelope.
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Old 01-30-2010, 21:09   #5
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Cor Bon loads a 140gr bullet and Federal loads a 155gr one so I'd imagine the Cor Bon round will be a little faster given the lighter weight and assuming the same pressure envelope.



from the corbon site.

  • Caliber: 9mm Luger Plus P
  • Bullet Wt.: 115gr Self-Defense DPX
  • Velocity: 1250fps
  • Energy: 399ftlbs
  • Test Barrel Length: 4.0 Inches
http://le.atk.com/ballistics/Ammo_Ba...1140&bulletwgt


the 44mag is loaded 200fps light, and almost every other caliber/weight XPB/barnes expander they load that is the same wt./cal. is loaded lighter than corbon.



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Old 01-30-2010, 22:29   #6
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That .40 federal xpb load sure is impotent. No thanks.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:53   #7
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That .40 federal xpb load sure is impotent. No thanks.
The 1030 muzzle velocity is rather lame I'll agree. However, aren't the X bullets *supposedly* able to open up and still penetrate even at lower velocities and therefore less recoil? I also wonder if that 1030fps is a misprint. Hell, that's a hot 180gr load velocity!

Still, can you imagine the potential of that 155gr X bullet if jacked up by someone like Buffalo Bore or Double Tap? WhooHoo!
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:56   #8
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ya, id like to see it around 1200fps.

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ya, id like to see it around 1200fps.

I would predict that it's only a matter of time before someone does it (commercially, not home-rolled).
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:26   #10
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The Barnes DPX bullet will give 100% weight retention and should be very good against barriers. I doubt that it needs the extra velocity in order for the bullet to work as designed. I have some loaded by Federal for my 454. They are 250 grain and not as hot as most factory loads in 454. Less recoil for sure than the 300 grain loads. 100% weight retention with massive expansion and still the ability to penetrate deep.They are pricy but one heck of a good bullet. As far as expanding bullets go they are on par with the Nosler Partition Gold and may be even better. They are long for their weight.
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That .40 federal xpb load sure is impotent. No thanks.
I'd take it any day over a 147 9mm @ 900. Too bad the 140 @ 1200 loaded by Corbon is $2/rd.
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Old 02-02-2010, 15:25   #12
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I wish DT would load the 140 Barnes at 1300 to 1350 in a 40 cal. That would be a great SD round.
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Old 02-02-2010, 20:49   #13
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:37   #14
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I wonder why they are loading it so slow. 1250fps for a 140 grain is slow compared to their other stuff. Heck, 135 gr 40 cal are rated at 1375fps.
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I wonder why they are loading it so slow. 1250fps for a 140 grain is slow compared to their other stuff. Heck, 135 gr 40 cal are rated at 1375fps.
The reason has already been mentioned. The bullets are much longer for weight than bullets with lead cores. That 140 is as long as a 165 gr. GD, maybe longer. You can only cram so much powder in there. If you're interested in these all copper bullets, 10mm is the way to go for an auto. You can get good performance from 44mag and 357mag also. You will give up velocity for weight with these. The 357 comes in 140 (the heavyweight) and the 44 comes in 225. The heaviest 45 I've seen is 185.
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The reason has already been mentioned. The bullets are much longer for weight than bullets with lead cores. That 140 is as long as a 165 gr. GD, maybe longer. You can only cram so much powder in there. If you're interested in these all copper bullets, 10mm is the way to go for an auto. You can get good performance from 44mag and 357mag also. You will give up velocity for weight with these. The 357 comes in 140 (the heavyweight) and the 44 comes in 225. The heaviest 45 I've seen is 185.

Ah, didn't pay enough attention. Thanks
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