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02-03-2010, 17:22
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Question for appi and others.
Do you believe a average person needs a rear sight on a shotgun? If you do ....why?
My opinion ...its a shotgun .. not a rifle.
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02-03-2010, 18:00
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No one does, it is an F'en shotgun............. I don't even use sights. I look at what I want to hit and point the weapon and hit it......... a bead sight helps line up the weapon for longer shots and I will use that when needed.
However, if you want hits with slugs at range then yes, but only rifle sights. All that other mess is, well, just mess........
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02-03-2010, 18:34
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The only way you are going know what sights you like best is to try them out for yourself. All the responses to this post will just be personal opinions.
I prefer Ghost ring sights on a "defense" shotgun and a bead sight is a close second. I don't care for rifle sights on a shotgun because they slow me up. GRS are more versatile and I am just as fast with them as a bead sight.
Most use rifle sights or GRS in 3-gun matches, that should tell you something.
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02-03-2010, 19:54
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My idea of a defensive shotgun for use with buckshot:
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02-04-2010, 01:32
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Baseball players dont need sights to hit a 80 mph ball. The body uses instinctual aiming at close distances. I had to draw down on a tweeker meth head once and trust me...I was not focusing on my front sight post. (even though I was taught to in the academy) All my attention was on the tweekers hands and I instinctively pointed at what I felt was his center of mass?
Thank God I did not need to shoot. The kid was barely 17 or 18 I'd guess?
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02-04-2010, 16:11
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Well a bead is ok if you just use it in your house I guess, but a GRS set up is fast an accurate especially in low light conditions and outdoors. You can do very accurate tight shots wit an IC buckshot loads. I can hit man sized targets at 45- 60 yds with dixxie tri ball all day and quickly. There is a reason military shotguns come with GRS now. Modern buckshot loads are much better than even 10 years ago. But what ever works for you.
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02-04-2010, 16:25
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02-04-2010, 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERTHEHILLGUY
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Ghost Ring Sights?????
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02-04-2010, 16:36
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I think they mean Ghost Ring Sights = GRS...
U NO U can abbrv any thng 2 day...
It's a TXT'n thang.
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02-04-2010, 17:51
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thanks for the information.
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02-04-2010, 18:29
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IMNSHO, on a shotgun, whichever eye is in line with the receiver and barrel/bead, is your rear sight.
In other words. . . . you AIM a rifle (or handgun), you POINT a shotgun.
(Unless shooting slugs, in which case you're trying to turn your scattergun into a short-range big bore rifle.)
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02-04-2010, 18:52
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daaaa dumb me.
Tweeker
IMNSHO
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02-05-2010, 10:34
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I've got the original set of Ashley Express Sights on my Beretta 1201. I like that set-up because it allows me to use the bead for normal use but still get a finer sight for long-range slug stuff. But I also have just a bead on my 870 and don't feel it hampers me at all. I can still hit a man-size target with slugs at 100 yards with boring regularity with either of them.
I've tried rifle sights and Ghost Ring sights and don't particularly like either one for shotgun use.
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02-05-2010, 17:12
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I have rifle sights on my 870, because my department has them. I'm used to them now, and can't see changing, though if I did it'd likely be to XS Express sights.
My previous gun had ghost rings, because I was convinced I needed them (I was wrong). While I still have a gun with ghost rings, I wouldn't buy another.
I've never had a fighting shotgun with a bead sight, and likely won't because I'm so used to having sights.
bc
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02-05-2010, 17:44
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I use GRS on my 590A1, I really like them, I am much more accurate when firing slugs at any sort of distance with them.
But they are not necessarily necessary on a shotgun.
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02-05-2010, 18:15
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My 870, 10/22, Saiga 12, and Swiss K31 all wear aperture rear sights, so I guess it can be said that I'm a fan of them.
Are they ever necessary on any gun? No, and with a shotgun firing shot at room distances, you could get away with no sights at all.
Can slugs be effectively aimed with just a bead? Yes, but rifle sights or ghost rings are heads and shoulders superior to a bead, and there's no disputing that. Great thing is, it's a free country, and people can use any sight they want to. My Saiga has a red dot and even a freakin' laser.
My favorite are the Krebs ghost ring sights I have on the S12.
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