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Old 02-14-2010, 10:20   #1
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Scope with .223 bullet compensator

I am looking for a good guility scope under 1000.00 that has the .223 or 5.56 built in bullet drop comensator built into the recticle that shows yardage in a cross hair form. With magnification, any suggestions. Thanks. I just cant find what I am looking for searching the net. any one own one these and are they accurate? Thanks again for help. Scott
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ACOG. I prefer the TA01. Dead-nuts reliable, RTZ after removal/reinstallation, no batteries, and its under your budget.

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I am looking for a good guility scope under 1000.00 that has the .223 or 5.56 built in bullet drop comensator built into the recticle that shows yardage in a cross hair form. With magnification, any suggestions. Thanks. I just cant find what I am looking for searching the net. any one own one these and are they accurate? Thanks again for help. Scott
Nikon just came out with these:

http://www.nikonhunting.com/riflescopes-m-223.html
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Old 02-14-2010, 15:27   #4
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What you want is a Leupold VX-3 with a Varmint Reticle. Get it in the objective size and maximum power of your choice.
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:02   #5
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Burris XTR 1-4x FTW.
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ACOG. I prefer the TA01. Dead-nuts reliable, RTZ after removal/reinstallation, no batteries, and its under your budget.

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ACOG is king, but I believe he's looking for crosshairs (w/ BDC?) as opposed to chevron and "yardage" not meters. Unless that just means "range..." who uses yards???

Most BDC reticles have the range ladder w/o horizontal cross hairs though. ATN 5x33 LU is a cheap option too... but heavy and the view is tinted blue. There is an illuminated reticle though, which I like.

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ACOG is king, but I believe he's looking for crosshairs (w/ BDC?) as opposed to chevron and "yardage" not meters. Unless that just means "range..." who uses yards???

Most BDC reticles have the range ladder w/o horizontal cross hairs though. ATN 5x33 LU is a cheap option too... but heavy and the view is tinted blue. There is an illuminated reticle though, which I like.
TA01 doesn't have the chevron...its a full-redline illuminated reticle. See below. The width of the horizontal stadia corresponds to the standard human silhouette width at the given range.

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I prefer that reticle to the chevron or donut.

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ACOG is great for hunting human size targets. There's less expensive options for most other uses though.
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Some great help guys! That tao1 recticle is the type I like, I wish it just had the yardage marks beside the cross hair lines, easier for me to see and tell what yardage cross hair I am at. Very good optics to pick from so far.
Please keep them coming if you got one to share. Thanks, Scott
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Old 02-15-2010, 13:19   #10
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Burris XTR 1-4x FTW.
That is great looking scope, do you use the turret to cange the yardage? Looked at several on net and could really find out and no pics of what the reticle looked like. Thanks Jer
Do you have one and if so is it easy to change yardage by hand with the turret? Can you hear it click or feel it click for each yard you go up or down? Thanks again, Scott
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No, you don't change the yardage you holdover based on distance using the hashes that go down the reticle.
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To answer your other question I not only have one but I liked it so much I bought a second one, realized I only needed one and will be selling the second one which was barely used here shortly. Just trying to get my online hosting back up and running so I can host pictures to post it for sale but these optics are great. One of the better all around scopes I've used for your particular usage.
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If you decide to go with the ACOG you may find this article useful:

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Nightforce 1-4x (with Velocity reticle), Burris 1-4x (with ballistic plex reticle), Leupold MkIV 1.5-5x (with SPR reticle ... also has bullet drop comp dials as well), and just a few quality options avalible on the market.
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Old 02-15-2010, 19:28   #14
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To answer your other question I not only have one but I liked it so much I bought a second one, realized I only needed one and will be selling the second one which was barely used here shortly. Just trying to get my online hosting back up and running so I can host pictures to post it for sale but these optics are great. One of the better all around scopes I've used for your particular usage.



http://www.4scopes.com/xtr_tactical.htm

I went to there web sight and have many to choose from, exactly witch one do you have, number please would help alot. thanks for you help Jer.
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Nightforce 1-4x (with Velocity reticle), Burris 1-4x (with ballistic plex reticle), Leupold MkIV 1.5-5x (with SPR reticle ... also has bullet drop comp dials as well), and just a few quality options avalible on the market.

Very interested reading and suggestion's, thanks for your help also.
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Nightforce 1-4x (with Velocity reticle), Burris 1-4x (with ballistic plex reticle), Leupold MkIV 1.5-5x (with SPR reticle ... also has bullet drop comp dials as well), and just a few quality options avalible on the market.

That has got to be one of the best right ups on a product I ever read. The pics helped greatly. I know more about eye relief and recticles than ever before. I like the TA11, believe I will get me one of those, I to plan on doing some match games with my AR also and think it will serve all my purposes. Thank you very much for your time in writing that up and posting the pics. and thanks every one eles reply's also. That is what this forum is all about, helping people. Thanks, Scott
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Nightforce 1-4x (with Velocity reticle), Burris 1-4x (with ballistic plex reticle), Leupold MkIV 1.5-5x (with SPR reticle ... also has bullet drop comp dials as well), and just a few quality options avalible on the market.

I didn't know you could get a 1-4x Nightforce with the velocity reticle?
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I didn't know you could get a 1-4x Nightforce with the velocity reticle?

My mistake, I thought it was offered on all 3 of the compact models, but after double checking it's only offered on the 2.5-10x models.


However a friend who is a SWAT Sgt for a large Metro Flordia agency informed me that the FC2 (offered in the 1-4x ... he uses the 1-4x with FC2 on his duty gun) has bullet drop comp properties for the .223.

I can remember the zero distance, but he dot inside the circle would be point of aim, point of impact at the zero distance, bottom of the circle is point of impact for XXX yards, and the tip of the arrow is point of aim for XXX yards.
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http://www.4scopes.com/xtr_tactical.htm

I went to there web sight and have many to choose from, exactly witch one do you have, number please would help alot. thanks for you help Jer.
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It's none of those. Like I said, it's the XTR 1-4x which is the zoom.

This is what it looks like:

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Here's the reticle:

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Some detail/explanation of the reticle:

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They come with a full lifetime warranty and are based about 30min from me in Greeley Colorado so I'm a bit partial but these are GREAT optics.
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