your better off getting a SBS or doing your own conversion. then you can set it up as a AOW if you want. I have not found a Folder yet I liked the feel of while shooting. I might give the butler creek another try but find some rubber or something to wrap the stock with. having you face on metter with a 12 gauge is not fun. that and you will eventually become quite personal with the folding mechinism, also not fun. I ended up putting a hogue youth stock on my SBS.