What shotgun for $500?

blaster_54738 · 03-03-2010, 01:54

I have $500 and I want a new tactical shotgun. I'm leaning towards the Benelli Supernova Tactical at the momment. Will be going to look/buy in about 9 hours so any suggestions will be appreciated.

frankr · 03-03-2010, 03:30

The Benelli Supernova Tactical is a great gun but so is the Remington. I went with the 12 gauge Remington 870 Express, model 25077, 18 1/2 inch Barrel, 2 shell magazine extension, 6+1 magazine capacity, speed feed slide fore-end for $370. I needed to save some money because I had my eyes on a Mossberg 930 SPX, great tactical auto for $657 out the door. But that is another story.

B Coyote · 03-03-2010, 03:42

An 18.5" Remington 870 and use the extra money for ammo.

bc

blaster_54738 · 03-03-2010, 06:58

already have tons of ammo so that's not needed.

marshallblaine02 · 03-03-2010, 07:04

IMO nothing is better than and 870 for an inexpensive HD shotgun, personally I use a 11-87 as my duck/bedroom shotty, some people say pump is more reliable but I really don't think so maybe w/ bird shot you could get some weak rounds that would make in not function 100% but I'm pretty sure the 3" 00 buck have the recoil to make it work. I KNOW THEY DO! I've got several thousand round thru this gun and know it is a workhorse.

ScrappyDoo · 03-03-2010, 07:30

spend a little more for the Mossberg 930 SPX ... it's the bomb.

Michael Palombi · 03-03-2010, 09:01

Saiga 12 with a 20rnd drum.

Michael Palombi

blaster_54738 · 03-03-2010, 09:16

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Originally Posted by ScrappyDoo

spend a little more for the Mossberg 930 SPX ... it's the bomb.

won't own a mossberg. i use to have one when i was younger for deer and turkey and didn't like it, seemed for lack of a better term, cheap and every one i've picked up since has felt the same way. i've had an 870 express too and really didn't care for it either. was probably just the gun but it had failure to feed issues, shells wouldn't come out of the magazine tube so thats why i was leaning towards the benelli. i guess we'll just see what i can find today. i'll post pictures if i can find one that suits my needs.

blaster_54738 · 03-03-2010, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Michael Palombi

Saiga 12 with a 20rnd drum.

Michael Palombi

thought about it if somebody sold them around here

mixflip · 03-03-2010, 09:39

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Originally Posted by blaster_54738

I have $500 and I want a new tactical shotgun. I'm leaning towards the Benelli Supernova Tactical at the momment. Will be going to look/buy in about 9 hours so any suggestions will be appreciated.

The SuperNova is probably the best value for $500 in a pump shotgun you can buy today. I love the 870's but I could not deny the facts and features of the new SuperNova. It won shotgun of the year a few years back for a reason. I try not to buy stuff solely on blind faith to a brand or hype. The 870 is an amazing shotgun and I will own one someday when I need another pump but it is based on 1950's technology. Caburators work but so does fuel injection. The SuperNova is just a product of advancement that comes with time, new technology and Italian engineering. There is nothing wrong with that.

If Remington or Mossberg made a gun with all the features the Benelli has guess what? I'd be buying their gun.
Chrome lined barrels to fight corrosion,
rotating dual lug bolt head like an M14
mag stop button,
safety button forward of the trigger guard, thats oversized from the factory
polymer armor coating like a Glock mag,
built in sling studs,
ghost ring sights,
recoil reducing stock with no springs,
non-spring loaded load gate that doesnt pinch your fingers, locks out of the way like Mossbergs
Remington style slide release button
hi viz follower from the factory,
spring loaded pinned extractor vs riveted,
shoots everything up to 3.5" shells
60 seconds to field strip and reassemble...

C'mon thats alot of bang for the buck.

Of course non of this stuff is NEEDED to do the job of sending 00-buck down range but for an extra $150 you get alot over the traditional 870's and 500s.

Here is a good short review on it from shotgunworld.com if you are interested
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=7&t=211800

frankr · 03-03-2010, 10:07

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Originally Posted by mixflip

The SuperNova is probably the best value for $500 in a pump shotgun you can buy today. I love the 870's but I could not deny the facts and features of the new SuperNova. It won shotgun of the year a few years back for a reason. I try not to buy stuff solely on blind faith to a brand or hype. The 870 is an amazing shotgun and I will own one someday when I need another pump but it is based on 1950's technology. Caburators work but so does fuel injection. The SuperNova is just a product of advancement that comes with time, new technology and Italian engineering. There is nothing wrong with that.

If Remington or Mossberg made a gun with all the features the Benelli has guess what? I'd be buying their gun.
Chrome lined barrels to fight corrosion,
rotating dual lug bolt head like an M14
mag stop button,
safety button forward of the trigger guard, thats oversized from the factory
polymer armor coating like a Glock mag,
built in sling studs,
ghost ring sights,
recoil reducing stock with no springs,
non-spring loaded load gate that doesnt pinch your fingers, locks out of the way like Mossbergs
Remington style slide release button
hi viz follower from the factory,
spring loaded pinned extractor vs riveted,
shoots everything up to 3.5" shells
60 seconds to field strip and reassemble...

C'mon thats alot of bang for the buck.

Of course non of this stuff is NEEDED to do the job of sending 00-buck down range but for an extra $150 you get alot over the traditional 870's and 500s.

Here is a good short review on it from shotgunworld.com if you are interested
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=7&t=211800

mixflip, you got me scratching my head.

Mad Trapper · 03-03-2010, 10:44

Actually went and bought a Mossberg 500 persuader yesterday for $379, 18.5 barrel, parkerized, black stocks. I was going to buy the Supernova Tactical for $469, but it just seemed so big and heavy. Maybe it was just me, but the Mossberg seemed so much lighter, or it just fit me better. Benelli's a nice gun but the 500 design was and has been used by the US military for years.

ScrappyDoo · 03-03-2010, 11:19

Geez I got my 930 SPX on Super Bowl Sunday and it's not even been a month and now I'm jonesing for a damn Benelli. Thanks a lot mixflip!

mixflip · 03-03-2010, 13:01

Lol...sorry Frank and Scrappy. Hey life aint bad if you end up owning a Mossberg 930 SPX and a Benelli SuperNova Tactical.

Btw way guys I have a new Benelli SuperNova review just posted on youtube if you really want to learn more about my new pump shotgun in detail. Hopefully I dont piss off too many Remington & Mossberg pump lovers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKIUaiLc0yU part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTrx8c-eOs part 2

Jay S. · 03-03-2010, 16:36

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Originally Posted by mixflip

Lol...sorry Frank and Scrappy. Hey life aint bad if you end up owning a Mossberg 930 SPX and a Benelli SuperNova Tactical.

Btw way guys I have a new Benelli SuperNova review just posted on youtube if you really want to learn more about my new pump shotgun in detail. Hopefully I dont piss off too many Remington & Mossberg pump lovers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKIUaiLc0yU part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTrx8c-eOs part 2

I have a Nova that I use for Duck/Goose hunting. It is built like a tank. A couple of friends have them as well. They have been used as paddles, poles for pushing off river banks ( unloaded of course ) bounced around canoes and trucks and generally beat all to hell. One of my Friends refuses to clean his. Every once in a while he will aim some wd40 at it and hope some lands on it.

blaster_54738 · 03-03-2010, 17:17

went with the Benelli. It was a toss up between that and the 870, they were both set up almost identical and the prices were the same. the supernova has ghost rings and felt better so thats what i went with. pics to come soon

SiNNiK · 03-03-2010, 17:39

I bought my Benelli SNT because it was beefier than the "other guys".

It was heavier feeling, but the balance was great. Then I put a mag extension on and once it had a snoot full of shot it was pretty heavy and of course changed the balance making it not so easy to swing around, but for 7+1 I'll deal with the weight.

You won't be sorry with the SNT.

mixflip · 03-03-2010, 18:04

Maybe its just me but since I owned a Mossberg 590 (9 shot obviously) a tank of a shotgun...I dont feel like my Benelli is heavy at all?

I'd like to think its my massive muscles but that aint even close to the truth, lol.

dc2integra · 03-03-2010, 21:36

mossberg 500 tactical for about 350$ the rest of the cash for ammo

SiNNiK · 03-03-2010, 23:03

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Originally Posted by mixflip

Maybe its just me but since I owned a Mossberg 590 (9 shot obviously) a tank of a shotgun...I dont feel like my Benelli is heavy at all?

I'd like to think its my massive muscles but that aint even close to the truth, lol.

Just watched your review, pretty much covered everything, good job.

I'd like to add a couple of things, if I may.

Pro: Hammer forged barrels.

Con: Barrels cost $300.

As for the weight, mine feels much heavier than my M70AB2 does, loaded. Probably just because the ammo is loaded horizontally out towards the front and not vertical under the receiver like the AK.

Maybe I just need to do some pushups.

mixflip · 03-04-2010, 01:53

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Originally Posted by SiNNiK

Hammer forged barrels.

Hammer forged barrels? Dang it I thought I covered everything. That is good to know, thanks. Now I have to add that bit if info on the video as a pop up annotation.

frankr · 03-04-2010, 03:56

mixflip, great looking gun and as always great video's. But my number one shotgun for home protection is my 930 SPX. Went to the range yesterday for fun shooting and of the four boxes in the low brass Federal 100 shell value pack we get at Wal-Mart I shot three boxes from my shoulder and the last box from my hip. Guess what. Your correct, not one malfunction. Good luck with your new shotgun and keep posting your videos. Count to date, 350 shells shot, malfuntions 0

ScrappyDoo · 03-04-2010, 09:24

frank and mix, quick question. Do either of you have an , dare I say, Upgraded? barrel for the 930 SPX? I don't mean upgraded as in better... I mean, maybe, bigger/longer for different applications? I want to use my 930 as my tactical shotgun / HD weapon but also my "primary" shotgun ... and seeing as it's my only shotgun and it seems the next I purchase will also be a tactical model (The Benelli) and I'm not buying a new barrel for THAT mofo, I'd like to consider and maybe get some ideas/options for buying a new barrel for the Mossberg so I can increase its versatility...

Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks gents.

frankr · 03-04-2010, 09:43

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Originally Posted by ScrappyDoo

frank and mix, quick question. Do either of you have an , dare I say, Upgraded? barrel for the 930 SPX? I don't mean upgraded as in better... I mean, maybe, bigger/longer for different applications? I want to use my 930 as my tactical shotgun / HD weapon but also my "primary" shotgun ... and seeing as it's my only shotgun and it seems the next I purchase will also be a tactical model (The Benelli) and I'm not buying a new barrel for THAT mofo, I'd like to consider and maybe get some ideas/options for buying a new barrel for the Mossberg so I can increase its versatility...

Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks gents.

ScrappyDoo I have the factory installed 18.5 barrel only but I see no reason why you would not be able to put any Mossberg 930 barrel on your SPX. The only difference between the 930 SPX and a field grade 930 is the finish, sights, magazine 2 shot extension and Picatinny rail. You should be able to remove your SPX barrel and slip on your hunting barrel, the finish will be different and you may have to go with a shorter magazine spring and end cap depending if your limited to the number of shells your gun can be loaded with when hunting in your state. You would also have to remove the rear ghost ring sight, but there should be room to look down the picatinny rail to the front bead of your hunting barrel. Hope this helps. mix may have more information.

mixflip · 03-04-2010, 09:43

I am not 100% sure but I just looked at Mossbergs catalog magazine and there are tons of 930 hunting gun variations for duck, dove, turkey, ect. Since th eSPX is essentially based off a semi-auto hunting gun I dont see why any of those barrels wouldnt fit the SPX. Call or email Mossberg before you actually buy one just to be sure.

The only issue I can see is that your SPX has ghost ring sights. If you swap in a hunting barrel with a vent rib and bead sight. You will have to remove your rear ghost ring sight (which is easy) and either go with a holosight mounted on the picatinny rail or remove the picatinny rail all together and go 100% hunter style.

Also as Frank mentioned, you will probably need to buy a standard mag cap and a shell limiter dowel (or make your own if you are cheap like me) just to keep the Game Warden happy.