Quetion for Master Reloaders

robin303 · 03-04-2010, 17:32

Lubing Brass. What is your technique and what do you use for 9mm and 40 S&W. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
I find myself lubing every 3rd one to go into my Lee dies decapping and such.<o:p></o:p>
Must be a easier and faster way. <o:p></o:p>
Thanks<o:p></o:p>

chris in va · 03-04-2010, 17:34

If your Lee dies have the carbide inserts, you don't have to lube the cases.

fredj338 · 03-04-2010, 17:36

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Originally Posted by robin303

Lubing Brass. What is your technique and what do you use for 9mm and 40 S&W. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
I find myself lubing every 3rd one to go into my Lee dies decapping and such.<o:p></o:p>
Must be a easier and faster way. <o:p></o:p>
Thanks<o:p></o:p>

Using carbide dies? I don't lube cases at all when using carbide sizers. For steel, you really should lube every case to make sure one oversize one doesn't stick. Many swear by Hornady OneShot case lube, goes on wet, size after it dries & doesn't need to be removed. I have started using it on my longer magnum cases that require more force to size. Just makes things easier. For the short service cases, the polish residue left over from tumbling is all I need w/ carbide dies.

ede · 03-04-2010, 17:36

my question is how does someone become a master reloader? it might be one of those things if you have to ask you ain't one. try HOS and a gallon freezer bag.

GioaJack · 03-04-2010, 17:40

It's easier just to let the butler do it. Other than that suggestion the 'Master Loader' part of your question disqualifies me. (What's lube?

)

Jack

**n2extrm** · 03-04-2010, 17:51

I use the dillon spray lube for all my rifle stuff. My pistol dies are all carbide and I don't lube the brass, like fred.

I lay all my rifle brass on a cookie sheet (don't tell my wife she is still trying to figure out how she missplaced it) and give them a light spray, then a little shake and another light spray. The key is light on the spray or you will gum up dies and dent cases. By the time I have the scale zeroed and my bullet next to the press the cases are ready to go. They claim you can leave the lube on, but I wipe them down and look them over for a final inspection when I box them up.

Run&Shoot · 03-04-2010, 17:53

For handgun cases I use carbide resizer dies which do not need lubrication. For rifle cases (would apply to handgun cases with steel dies) I use a spray like RCBS or Hornady. I place the cases in the loading block head up and spay across all the cases from two sides.

Most of the friction is at the base, or head, of the case. You also want to get some lube inside the neck since that is where the case mouth sizing mandrel drags through. If you use a dry lube like Hornady you don't have to clean after sizing before putting in powder.

Colorado4Wheel · 03-04-2010, 17:56

7 Views, 6 Post only one guy around here so far isn't a master. All in less then 30mins as well.

bulldog1144 · 03-04-2010, 17:59

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, but I have a question about reloading. I have a G30 that my wife surprised me with a couple of Christmas' ago ( what a gal ) and I just this week bought a G36 for a little easier concealment in lighter clothing. I also bought a single stage Lee press kit to save a little money shooting. My question is, I have read on another thread on here that buying an aftermarket barrel was better if you were going to reload the brass because Glock barrels cause the brass to bulge too much from excessive room in the chamber. How much difference does it make and is it really necessary if I am using a full length resizing die? I've seen where I can get a lone wolf barrel for around 100 bucks. Thanks for any input.

robin303 · 03-04-2010, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel

7 Views, 6 Post only one guy around here so far isn't a master. All in less then 30mins as well.

I knew you would chime in.

GioaJack · 03-04-2010, 18:13

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Originally Posted by bulldog1144

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, but I have a question about reloading. I have a G30 that my wife surprised me with a couple of Christmas' ago ( what a gal ) and I just this week bought a G36 for a little easier concealment in lighter clothing. I also bought a single stage Lee press kit to save a little money shooting. My question is, I have read on another thread on here that buying an aftermarket barrel was better if you were going to reload the brass because Glock barrels cause the brass to bulge too much from excessive room in the chamber. How much difference does it make and is it really necessary if I am using a full length resizing die? I've seen where I can get a lone wolf barrel for around 100 bucks. Thanks for any input.

Don't worry about bulges with the Glock .45 barrels, it's not an issue. If you're going to be shooting you may want to consider a LW barrel... lot of different opinions on that issue.

Does your wife have a sister?

Jack

Oh... welcome to the mad house.

bulldog1144 · 03-04-2010, 18:22

GioaJack, thanks for the input. When you say " if you're going to be shooting, you should consider a lw barrel ", do you mean just to keep from wearing my glock barrel out? And by the way, my wife does have a sister, but she is already taken. Sorry.

Colorado4Wheel · 03-04-2010, 18:23

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Originally Posted by robin303

I knew you would chime in.

Yeah, but I didn't read the first post.

IndyGunFreak · 03-04-2010, 18:40

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Originally Posted by bulldog1144

GioaJack, thanks for the input. When you say " if you're going to be shooting, you should consider a lw barrel ", do you mean just to keep from wearing my glock barrel out? And by the way, my wife does have a sister, but she is already taken. Sorry.

Jack's a bit senile, but I think he meant "If you're going to be shooting lead"...

I'm hardly a master, but Hornady Case lube is pretty good. There's a guy who shoots at my range who swears by Dillon Case Lube. I don't know him that well, just kinda one of those guys I run into on occasion, and I've probably not seen him in probably 5-6mo.

robin303 · 03-04-2010, 18:42

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Originally Posted by n2extrm

I use the dillon spray lube for all my rifle stuff. My pistol dies are all carbide and I don't lube the brass, like fred.

I lay all my rifle brass on a cookie sheet (don't tell my wife she is still trying to figure out how she missplaced it) and give them a light spray, then a little shake and another light spray. The key is light on the spray or you will gum up dies and dent cases. By the time I have the scale zeroed and my bullet next to the press the cases are ready to go. They claim you can leave the lube on, but I wipe them down and look them over for a final inspection when I box them up.

The spray sounds like a easy quick way to go.

(don't tell my wife she is still trying to figure out how she missplaced it)

GioaJack · 03-04-2010, 18:42

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Originally Posted by bulldog1144

GioaJack, thanks for the input. When you say " if you're going to be shooting, you should consider a lw barrel ", do you mean just to keep from wearing my glock barrel out? And by the way, my wife does have a sister, but she is already taken. Sorry.

Bulldog:

There is a bit of controversy concerning the type of rifling that Glock uses and if it's compatible with lead bullets. You might want to do a 'search' of this forum... after reading the 7 thousand pages you'll still be bewildered... as are many of us.

BTW... you probably won't live long enough to wear out your barrel... after all, they're not NRA target pistols.

Too bad about your wife's sister... yet another woman who will lose out on the extreme pleasures of life.

Jack

GioaJack · 03-04-2010, 18:44

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Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

Jack's a bit senile, but I think he meant "If you're going to be shooting lead"...

Oops... I'm running back and forth from the stove, guess I forgot a rather important word. Don't want my Rice-A-Roni to burn. Sorry.

Jack

Bob2223 · 03-04-2010, 18:53

[quote=IndyGunFreak;14878211]Jack's a bit senile, but I think he meant "If you're going to be shooting lead"...

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Don't rouse and distract him IGF he will burn his Rice-A-Roni !

Bob

dudel · 03-04-2010, 18:54

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Originally Posted by robin303

Lubing Brass. What is your technique and what do you use for 9mm and 40 S&W. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
I find myself lubing every 3rd one to go into my Lee dies decapping and such.<o:p></o:p>
Must be a easier and faster way. <o:p></o:p>
Thanks<o:p></o:p>

Yep. Don't lube them at all. Make sure your carbide insert is clean. I run a bore brush with a wet patch through the die (with the decapping pin removed). Even with clean brass, I'm surprised at how dirty the carbide gets. Clean carbide makes for smoother stroke.

If you lube the cases, you also need to remove the lube to avoid stress on the breechface.

bulldog1144 · 03-04-2010, 19:07

Jack, thanks again. I didn't really think shooting my barrel out would ever be a problem. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't another issue I hadn't heard about. I had read about the lead bullet issue, but for right now I am going to stick to reloading fmj bullets. In the future, I might get the lw barrel and try lead to cut costs even further. Thanks again, David aka bulldog

Bob2223 · 03-04-2010, 19:18

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Originally Posted by robin303

Lubing Brass. What is your technique and what do you use for 9mm and 40 S&W. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
I find myself lubing every 3rd one to go into my Lee dies decapping and such.<o:p></o:p>
Must be a easier and faster way. <o:p></o:p>
Thanks<o:p></o:p>

Even with carbide dies I run a lubed one every 5th or 6th one.
I lay em in a cardboard box and roll them around and hit em with Hornady one shot spray.
Pretty fast and no mess.

Oh Jack uses nose oil for lube.
Ya just gotta ask him about it.

Bob

njl · 03-04-2010, 19:33

I'm no master reloader (only been doing it a year) and I don't know if my way is necessarily even a good way to go about it...but here's what I've been doing. I put just a tiny amount of pure lanolin on my thumb and index finger...literally just about as much as if I were using it as a moisturizer. When I pick up a piece of brass to put into the press, I roll it between my thumb and index finger. This puts a bit of lanolin on the brass. When it seems things are "running dry", I put a little more on my thumb, rub it between my thumb and index finger, and keep going.

With carbide sizing dies and straight wall pistol cases, you don't have to lube...but if you haven't tried it, you really should. It makes the resizing so much easier.

GioaJack · 03-04-2010, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Bob2223

Even with carbide dies I run a lubed one every 5th or 6th one.
I lay em in a cardboard box and roll them around and hit em with Hornady one shot spray.
Pretty fast and no mess.

Oh Jack uses nose oil for lube.
Ya just gotta ask him about it.

Bob

Robin:

Pay no attention to bob2223, his advice will lead you to financial ruin... he only knows how to use all that store bought stuff... a blatant sign of a rookie.

If I ever find him stuck in a drainage pipe he'll be begging me to use the world famous 'nose oil' but I won't hear 'em cause I'll be walking away.

Jack

Ruble Noon · 03-04-2010, 19:41

+1 for Dillon lube.

DEADLYACCURATE · 03-04-2010, 19:42

carbide dies no lube