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Old 03-08-2010, 15:57   #1
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What is your favorite DT round, and why?

I picked up a G20sf and am looking to pick up some ammo. I'm just starting to get into the 10mm game and am having some trouble trying to pick out what kind of DT ammo I want/need to order.

I decided to go with Mike's variety pack (200 rounds) where I get to pick 4 different kinds of rounds. Now I'm trying to figure what to get.

My 20sf is primarily going to be my SD pistol mostly in the woods while camping/hiking. I also want to try some handgun hunting next season, mostly bore/hogs (waiting on my 6" barrel). I will try and use it as my EDC (once skilled enough to do so with it), but I fear it will be too big.

And yes, I want to have a load strong enough to deter black bear..lots of em up in my neck of the woods. I have to look out my window every time I leave the house.

And lastly, a nice HD load. I am in no way worried about over penetration, I live in the middle of nowhere so if I ever have to use my 10mm in the house, I don't have to worry about a round passing through 4 other houses. I bought the 10mm G20sf because of how much fun I had blasting HOT rounds in my buddies 10mm. I'm still in awe!

What's the meanest load for 2 legged zombies and the best load for stopping big black bears?? I'm sure this has come up many times, but it looks like Mike has a few more different kinds of rounds that are not listed in the DT gelatin sticky. Thanks for the help guys!!

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Old 03-08-2010, 17:14   #2
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180 Bonded, or 155 Barnes. Stay away from the 135 Nosler for SD... not enough penetration, and too much frag, IMO. They are lots of fun, though. My neighbor about crapped himself when he heard the 135's. Keeps saying nothing's louder than a .45...
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Old 03-08-2010, 17:19   #3
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180 Bonded, or 155 Barnes. Stay away from the 135 Nosler for SD... not enough penetration, and too much frag, IMO. They are lots of fun, though. My neighbor about crapped himself when he heard the 135's. Keeps saying nothing's louder than a .45...
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Old 03-08-2010, 17:21   #4
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any of the gold dot HP's for HD should do the trick. maybe pick two of them and see what one is most accurate?

For bear the only loads to get are the 200 and or 230 g hard cast. I don't remember if they have xtp from double tap. If they do then 200g xtp is also ok for bear but not as good. xtp is probably the best deer load.

overall most folks seem to carry the 200g in the woods. I personaly can't see buying DT for HD. One of the cheaper loads that is closer to 40sw ballistics would be fine with me.
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Old 03-08-2010, 18:53   #5
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The 135grns are fun, I use them for home defense because of low penetration factor... you should see what they do to a pork shoulder.

The 165grn GD makes a lotta sense for a wide range of scenarios, HD or just EDC, they would pretty much excel at either duty.

The 200grn beartooths should give you a complete pass through on any blackbear at a wide variety of angles as it can penetrate about 21" of pineboard.
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Old 03-08-2010, 20:00   #6
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DT 200gr WFNGC for Woods Protection/Hunting, 180gr controlled expansion (XTP) for HD.
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Old 03-08-2010, 21:24   #7
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XTP and GD.
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Old 03-08-2010, 22:38   #8
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If they resumed loading the 180 gr XTP for their "controlled expansion," instead of the Montana Gold JHP that they had been substituting; that would be a solid overall round if one did not want to worry about mag changes each time one entered/exited the house. If one wanted to narrow it down to an inside/outside round I'd pick two. For walking around outside, I'd choose his 200 gr WFNGC hardcast. I buy that projectile from DT in component form for my handloads, and it is a very effective penetrator. I have recently transitioned to a 165 GD HP in my handloads, and I consider it to be effective. DT's 165 gr "bonded" be very effective for home defense.
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:46   #9
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Is it true they have no more loadings with Gold Dots anymore? =(
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Old 03-09-2010, 20:16   #10
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165g bonded defense

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Is it true they have no more loadings with Gold Dots anymore? =(
The "bonded defense" is the Gold Dot bullet. Apparently Speer won't let anyone else call them Gold Dot anymore. The 165 grain loading is still available from Doubletap, and in my opinion, it is best all around choice. Buy 2 boxes.

I agree with 200 grain WFNGC for woods carry -- a must.

I also would recommend buying a box of 135 grain Nosler, simply because it's nice to see what it feels like to shoot lightning bolts out of your fingertips. No other reason.
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I also would recommend buying a box of 135 grain Nosler, simply because it's nice to see what it feels like to shoot lightning bolts out of your fingertips. No other reason.
+1 Awesome, but carry something else...
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Old 03-09-2010, 22:20   #12
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I actually like the 135gr.
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I actually like the 135gr.
Most fun I have ever had shooting was cranking out this load on a buddies G20 last year.

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The "bonded defense" is the Gold Dot bullet. Apparently Speer won't let anyone else call them Gold Dot anymore. The 165 grain loading is still available from Doubletap, and in my opinion, it is best all around choice. Buy 2 boxes.

I agree with 200 grain WFNGC for woods carry -- a must.

I also would recommend buying a box of 135 grain Nosler, simply because it's nice to see what it feels like to shoot lightning bolts out of your fingertips. No other reason.

Really? Is that true??

Thanks for the heads up.
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Most fun I have ever had shooting was cranking out this load on a buddies G20 last year.

I blew a cooler up with the 135s, that was quite entertaining.
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Sorry, IMHO, if your not shooting the 200 grain bullets, in excess of 1200 FPS variety, your just not getting the 10MM potential experience!
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I blew a cooler up with the 135s, that was quite entertaining.
Now that sounds like fun.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:46   #18
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I really like the 155gr barnes, thats my carry load. but i have some 200 hard cast as well for the woods. I just loaded up 250 135 nosler that I'm taking to the range this weekend
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I really like the 155gr barnes, thats my carry load. but i have some 200 hard cast as well for the woods. I just loaded up 250 135 nosler that I'm taking to the range this weekend
What is so good about the 155gr barnes load besides being ridiculously expensive?
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What is so good about the 155gr barnes load besides being ridiculously expensive?
because the boolit is solid copper there are a few things i like. first no jacket separation and second copper is lighter then lead. this means a solid copper boolit is larger then a lead boolit of the same weight. and once you see the size of the hallow point you just fall in love
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