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03-22-2010, 17:27
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Leave Loaded Mag In Saiga 12
Is it ok to leave a fully loaded mag in the gun ? I've read in a couple of different firearm threads (don't remember if it was here on GT or not) something about how the top shotshell in the mag can become deformed over a period of time from being pressed against the bottom of the bolt carrier,thereby possibly causing chambering/feeding issues. Any S-12 owners/enthusiasts here know if there is any truth to this ?
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03-22-2010, 17:37
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yes this happened to a friend of mine. I cant remember how long it was loaded.
they did flatten out a little.
I am not sure if it caused feeding issues I will ask.
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03-22-2010, 18:11
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Don't they make solid brass shells for shotguns(in .410 and 12 ga.)?
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03-22-2010, 18:44
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Glocker08,
For the last year and a half, I have been leaving my bolt closed on my S12 with a full factory 5 round magazine inserted and locked, every day except when I have been shooting it.
Yes, it does smush down the the top edge of the shotshell a little bit. But, I have yet to have any issues with feeding rounds with that type of storage.
If it is that big of a concern just use your Bolt Hold Open button to keep the bolt back. Or, if you have removed it already, notch your safety lever to keep the bolt back.
Did that help?
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03-22-2010, 19:22
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Some people actually cut a relief into the bottom of the bolt for that. Others trim the bottom of the mag follower so the top round isn't so tight. Personally I load my eight-round mag one short and use a Winchester-Western 00B which has a very tough hull as the top round in the mag. S&B 00B has a really weak hull. I haven't see brass hulled 00B around in a long time but it is the ideal solution IMO.
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03-22-2010, 19:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dakotasdad
Glocker08,
For the last year and a half, I have been leaving my bolt closed on my S12 with a full factory 5 round magazine inserted and locked, every day except when I have been shooting it.
Yes, it does smush down the the top edge of the shotshell a little bit. But, I have yet to have any issues with feeding rounds with that type of storage.
If it is that big of a concern just use your Bolt Hold Open button to keep the bolt back. Or, if you have removed it already, notch your safety lever to keep the bolt back.
Did that help?
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That's good advice.I didn't think of that.Thanks.
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03-22-2010, 19:50
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Sometimes easier is....well easier.
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Last edited by dakotasdad; 03-22-2010 at 19:50..
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03-23-2010, 05:11
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Saiga
I keep a loaded magazine. However I do not insert it in the Saiga. I keep the Saiga in a case with the bolt back. I understand that it is the closed bolt that deforms the top shell in mag. I do not think I'd have a problem with the Saiga.
But the truth is I haven't shot a mag stored for several months - so don't really know. I will try a mag soon and post.
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