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05-09-2013, 09:50
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My FIRST food buckets are up!
Finally got it done!!!! And feeling good!!!!
I made five 5 gal buckets of food
#1 30lbs of rice
#2 30lbs of Pinto Beans
#3 15lbs of Oatmeal
#4 Crossloaded: 10Lbs rice, 12lbs Beans, 5 lbs Oatmeal
#5 Crossloaded: 10Lbs rice, 12lbs Beans, 5 lbs Oatmeal
(Used ziplock freezer storage to put various items inside mylar in #'s 4 & 5 and left small corner of each zip open for O2 absorption)
50lbs Rice, 45lbs beans, 25lbs Oatmenal!!!!!
White buckets from Lowes w/ Sealed lids
Mylar bags inside, double sealed with iron
2x2000cc O2 Absorbers in each!!!!!!
For those in the know, how many meals do you estimate or know this to be (just want to check my own math).
Great experience. I'll do a few more in maybe 6 mo. or so.
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05-09-2013, 09:58
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Rastaman!
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Awesome!! Sounds like you're off to one heck of a start!
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05-09-2013, 10:40
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StraightShooter
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Congrats! 
As far as how many meals...
..depends on your portion size.
There are programs & cookbooks I have that are invaluable when sizing preps...
..but I am out of town for testing right now.
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Last edited by LongGun1; 05-09-2013 at 22:47..
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05-09-2013, 10:45
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Nice work Aceman.
My calcs give a total of about 197,450 calories and if you assume 2,500 calories per person, per day then your preps cover about 79 days for one person. For a family of four you almost have 3 weeks covered but you'd all be sick of beans and rice pretty darn fast. 
I'd recommend, that if you add to these preps, that you add more rice, maybe stretch the ratio of rice to beans to 3-1. Also, you probably want to add some fats. Lots of ways to go here, canned meats, cheese, butter, ghee. You can use various oils if you rotate through your normal usage as they go rancid and aren't good for long term storage.
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Last edited by rwrjr; 05-09-2013 at 11:22..
Reason: crappy typist
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05-09-2013, 11:17
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+1 rwrjr's comments, plus also recommend some side-items/adjuncts be put back as well. They can really help with variety and avoiding diet fatigue, however big a concern that is to you personally. Rice with tabasco is very different than rice with soy sauce or with sweet & sour sauce. You can get the little 1 oz packets of sweet & sour sauce with a no-refrigeration shelf life of several years, unopened tabasco is ~5 years or better, and the shelf life of soy sauce is probably measured in millenia. A bucket of the little 1-lb canisters of iodized salt can also be a good thing.
Good job on the start - bet it 'feels' better than you thought some simple, prepared buckets would...? 
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05-09-2013, 12:16
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We got 4k personal and 4k shipped and 2k for friends.Keep on pluging.'08.
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05-09-2013, 12:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwrjr
Nice work Aceman.
My calcs give a total of about 197,450 calories and if you assume 2,500 calories per person, per day then your preps cover about 79 days for one person. For a family of four you almost have 3 weeks covered but you'd all be sick of beans and rice pretty darn fast.
I'd recommend, that if you add to these preps, that you add more rice, maybe stretch the ratio of rice to beans to 3-1. Also, you probably want to add some fats. Lots of ways to go here, canned meats, cheese, butter, ghee. You can use various oils if you rotate through your normal usage as they go rancid and aren't good for long term storage. |
Great comments and definitely my intention. I wanted to get my first five buckets up though, and make sure two of them were good for short term.
Canned good (including wet fruit, meats etc...) already on shelf.
My next buckets are absolutely planned to be additional rice. Too cheap/easy not to!
My next step is to add a bucket of freeze died, follow with more Rice, then back to additional canned stocks. And then just keep repeating that every month or so.
Family of 5 by the way, and an expectation of 1500-2000 per day. Not including the canned stocks which I would add to the rice.
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05-09-2013, 12:39
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Originally Posted by kirgi08
We got 4k personal and 4k shipped and 2k for friends.Keep on pluging.'08.
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If you're talking in meals, 4k is awesome. 
Not sure what you mean by shipped.
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05-09-2013, 13:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwrjr
If you're talking in meals, 4k is awesome.
That is the number shipped ta friends/they pay the ride,I eat the cost.
Not sure what you mean by shipped. |
See above,we got 4x that on board.'08.
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05-09-2013, 18:46
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Also plan on adding a Pasta bucket too...
Canned Tomato sauce cheap & easy!
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05-09-2013, 19:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aceman
Finally got it done!!!! And feeling good!!!!
I made five 5 gal buckets of food
#1 30lbs of rice
#2 30lbs of Pinto Beans
#3 15lbs of Oatmeal
#4 Crossloaded: 10Lbs rice, 12lbs Beans, 5 lbs Oatmeal
#5 Crossloaded: 10Lbs rice, 12lbs Beans, 5 lbs Oatmeal
(Used ziplock freezer storage to put various items inside mylar in #'s 4 & 5 and left small corner of each zip open for O2 absorption)
50lbs Rice, 45lbs beans, 25lbs Oatmenal!!!!!
White buckets from Lowes w/ Sealed lids
Mylar bags inside, double sealed with iron
2x2000cc O2 Absorbers in each!!!!!!
For those in the know, how many meals do you estimate or know this to be (just want to check my own math).
Great experience. I'll do a few more in maybe 6 mo. or so.
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Awesome. Thank-You for helping and not taking.
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05-10-2013, 05:27
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You know - when I look at the cost of the rice bucket, it really was not that much. I'm sure it can be done cheaper than the Walmart/Lowes approach. Still, little biy of money can go a long way.
It really reminds what unbelievable wasteful glutons our society has become.
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05-10-2013, 06:26
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Where'd ya put it case I get hungry??
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05-10-2013, 06:46
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Good on ya, OP!
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05-10-2013, 11:53
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Just a word of advice.
Don't go whole hog on buckets yet. Let them sit a bit, and then open and actually eat through a bucket or two, make sure your plan, and your execution actually match up.
The bucket system works, but I know we've all had ideas in our head that once executed, we learn could have been better, or we realize we missed something, or lack something...
It'd be a shame to get 40-50 or more buckets done, and then only later realize that you made a mistake and have to go back through a bunch to add a little step. Or even worse, if you get them all done, and don't realize something was wrong, untill you actually need them.
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05-10-2013, 12:18
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The cost savings is substantial. I have done a per calorie comparison on here once or twice, but for what you can buy a real 2500 calorie a day for one person, for 1 year, pre packaged, "meal plan", you can put up the same caloric value for a whole family. And because you didn't spend buttt loads of $$$ on it, you are (IMHO) more likely to actually start using it, (and eating better at the same time) a win win.
You really should start getting whole wheat into your diet/storage if possible. It's the storage item that pushed us over the edge into actually eating a whole lot better, and from our preps. I have two loaves of bread in the oven right now... it's all ishy and rainy outside.. but in here.. MMmmmMMMmmm good smellin', and in just a few more minutes, going to be fresh warm bread with real butter and mom's pomegranate jelly all up in here..
A note on storing buckets.. as they multiply... and they will... the heavier grains are going to go close to 40 pounds a bucket filled total weight. 3 high is the limit if "nesting" the bases into the lids below. If you get a sheet of 1/2 ply, and cut into 12" wide strips, and set those between each layer, you can go 6 buckets high at least, no problems yet. I have some stacked that way now for more than 10 years.
Last edited by SFCSMITH(RET); 05-10-2013 at 12:19..
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05-10-2013, 14:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AK_Stick
Just a word of advice.
Don't go whole hog on buckets yet. Let them sit a bit, and then open and actually eat through a bucket or two, make sure your plan, and your execution actually match up.
The bucket system works, but I know we've all had ideas in our head that once executed, we learn could have been better, or we realize we missed something, or lack something...
It'd be a shame to get 40-50 or more buckets done, and then only later realize that you made a mistake and have to go back through a bunch to add a little step. Or even worse, if you get them all done, and don't realize something was wrong, untill you actually need them.
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Wrong / missing step such as ??????
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05-10-2013, 14:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SFCSMITH(RET)
A note on storing buckets.. as they multiply... and they will... the heavier grains are going to go close to 40 pounds a bucket filled total weight. 3 high is the limit if "nesting" the bases into the lids below. If you get a sheet of 1/2 ply, and cut into 12" wide strips, and set those between each layer, you can go 6 buckets high at least, no problems yet. I have some stacked that way now for more than 10 years.
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MAke the shelves OUT OF the buckets! I like this!!!!!
The crossload buckets are intended for test purposes. They have a "reasonable" amount of useful items of various types.
I'll get to wheat. Right now, Pasta is next step. I'll be adding condiments/spice/salt/sugar soon.
And remember guys - this is only one piece of the toal plan including pantry, stored/rotating canned goods, freeze dried, and buckets, with a long term goal of a garden!
Last edited by Aceman; 05-10-2013 at 14:53..
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05-10-2013, 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock_collector
Where'd ya put it case I get hungry??
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Right next to my AK. 
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05-11-2013, 00:46
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StraightShooter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aceman
I'll get to wheat. Right now, Pasta is next step. I'll be adding condiments/spice/salt/sugar soon.
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Making whole wheat your core food prep is a really wise move!
Wheat can be processed into Pasta...
Wheat can be processed into TVP (Gluten)
Wheat can become sprouts
The flour made from wheat can become bread, pastries, roux, etc...etc
Wholesome, healthy, versatile, cost effective & if properly stored...wheat can last lifetimes.
Basically....wheat can be your core food prep.
It is mine...
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Last edited by LongGun1; 05-11-2013 at 01:00..
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05-11-2013, 07:23
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You need a new camera.'08.
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05-11-2013, 10:36
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StraightShooter
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Got a newer camera since those were taken....
Oldies but goodies!
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05-11-2013, 11:03
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20k beyond that on my end.You got better guns,we keep it simple.My friend,we can't KISS,we are trolls.WE eat defend and prosper.
Your advice has made us acquire nearly enough food stuffs.Plus the fact that I beat the curve.'08.
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I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
If you look like food,You will be eaten.
Rip Chad.You will be missed.
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05-11-2013, 13:23
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StraightShooter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirgi08
20k beyond that on my end.You got better guns,we keep it simple.My friend,we can't KISS,we are trolls.WE eat defend and prosper.
Your advice has made us acquire nearly enough food stuffs.Plus the fact that I beat the curve.'08.
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Congrats!
You have made fantastic progress in preparing for you & yours!
But keep in mind that pic is only a portion in that particular location...
A better view of that insulated trailer...52 ft....fairly packed front to back...left & right...
Also....I am just a working man doing what I can... 
..Myth is the uber-prepper here...IMHO!
That being said...
..we are discussing another large group buy..
(equal to what you see here...as well as what you do not see elsewhere)
..wheat & other foodstuffs!
It is nice this storage location is much closer to Kansas! 
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Last edited by LongGun1; 05-11-2013 at 14:43..
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