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Old 09-09-2010, 04:07   #981
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I went back and read thru the entire thread.

Fun stuff.

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Old 09-09-2010, 10:48   #982
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Actually I'd be willing to bet that there is an overwhelming majority of people on GT who disagree with your views and find them to be rather socialist/marxist. But it's a free country and thanks to the fact that we don't have a socialist government, you are free to share those views.

Now I am not one who is quick to judge anyone. But you can't say you weren't given a chance to prove you are a conservative and are not a communist/marxist.

You seem to share certain opinions and then when questioned on them, you'll either disappear for a while or disagree with how others view you without any supporting evidence.

You claimed to be a conservative, yet when asked close to a dozen times for specific conservative views you hold (other than we've assumed that you are pro-gun) you haven't given a single shred of proof to support yourself.

When asked how your views are NOT communist/marxist, again, you don't support yourself. You just try to explain how what you said is not bad or as bad as it could have been.

What political views you hold, whatever they may be, is certainly relevant to this discussion, but stop with the disappearing act and cherry picking.

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I've been around long enough to know that you can't change peoples minds. I could cite stuff left and right, and no matter what I say, it wouldn't change your views. I've seen it in thread after thread on multiple boards. So why bother even going there.

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As for the majority of people agreeing one way or the other...generally people like to think most others share their own viewpoints on a multitude of issues because they like to think of their own views as "correct". When it gets right down to it, there is a wide variety of views amongst posters.
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Old 09-09-2010, 11:12   #983
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I've been around long enough to know that you can't change peoples minds. I could cite stuff left and right, and no matter what I say, it wouldn't change your views. I've seen it in thread after thread on multiple boards. So why bother even going there.
Then you have no leg to stand on to support yourself as a conservative. I mean you've shared several views that align with socialism and you did that quite freely. And if you truly are a socialist, fine, it's a free country and you are allowed to be and no one can harm you for it. But come out of the closet. Otherwise, all you've done is everything possible to avoid sharing any conservative views...after claiming repeatedly to be one.

As far as having little time... I can understand you being busy, but there have been a few times I saw you talk elsewhere and then came here weeks later to chime in.

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Old 09-09-2010, 13:29   #984
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Disagreeing is fine. But you need to get "the majority" agreeing bit out of your head. That's exactly one of the things that eventually outed you as a Marxist/socialist/progressive.

We weren't founded as a democracy. We aren't a majority-rule government. Never have been. Though your Progressive movement has tried like hell to make it such with things like the 17th Amendment (wiki or pull out your pocket constitution to find out which one that is).

We are supposed to be governed under our founding contract, which enumerates the powers that the federal government may have. However your progressive movement has been chipping away at it with the courts and concepts like democracy and majority rule.

With regard to your love of equal rights and privileges without equal responsibility, progressive income tax, I'll repeat again that it is a Marxist concept taken directly from the 2nd plank of the communist manifesto. Regardless of what you WANT to believe, that makes it Marxist.

I encourage you again to read the constitution that you've taken an oath to uphold and protect.
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:11   #985
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984 POST OF YOU GUYS TALKING BY EACH OTHER.
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:15   #986
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984 POST OF YOU GUYS TALKING BY EACH OTHER.
I think we're all hoping it breaks 1000

All except maybe you know who
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:27   #987
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13 more and your there.
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:29   #988
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13 more and your there.
12...
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Old 09-09-2010, 20:40   #989
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Old 09-09-2010, 21:15   #990
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Yeah yeah we're close...but lets keep the posts relevant to hand-outs...

10...

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Old 09-09-2010, 21:50   #991
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Saints over Vikings, 14 - 9

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Old 09-09-2010, 23:34   #992
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I think we're all hoping it breaks 1000

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Old 09-10-2010, 03:44   #993
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Different response

What happens when the handouts stop?

1 things will change;
2. commentators will find in the change exactly when they armchair predicted in advance;
3. I will have done another day of exercise at the local YMCA because I spend my time working out and not getting worked up.
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:34   #994
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So it looks like today is the day. Well it's been a long time coming and I can hardly wait. Never has so much been said about so little...
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:02   #995
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what will happen when the hand outs stop?

Life, that's what will happen. people will die, most will adapt, many things will change and life will go on.

humans cling to the familiar, we will resist change sometimes until it violently shifts, and then we adapt and move on.

if the handouts stop, and they probably will at some point, it will be uncomfortable for a while, maybe a few years who knows, then life will go on.

another trait of humans, from early childhood we seem to imagine the worst and convince ourselves that it is real (remember the monster in your closet or under the bed?)

could America collapse from such a shift? not likely, but possible.

are we all going to die from something in the next few decades? absolutely!

so why not take the last few decades of your life and spend it on pleasant things and passing on your values to your children (that can only be accomplished with actual time spent with them, not by money and things acquired)

life is not the same as when our grandparents were young, and they will not be the same when your grand kids are adults.

none of this you can change to any great effect as an individual.

if your passion is politics fine get involved if you fear the catastrophic change, prep, as many of us do here.

but the endless bickering about one's political position and philosophy seems to me like a dog chasing his tail, (ok, wise guy you caught it, now what?)

or mental mastur****on, sure it feels nice to win, but aside from feeling better about yourself, what did you accomplish?

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what will happen when the hand outs stop?

Life, that's what will happen. people will die, most will adapt, many things will change and life will go on.

humans cling to the familiar, we will resist change sometimes until it violently shifts, and then we adapt and move on.

if the handouts stop, and they probably will at some point, it will be uncomfortable for a while, maybe a few years who knows, then life will go on.

another trait of humans, from early childhood we seem to imagine the worst and convince ourselves that it is real (remember the monster in your closet or under the bed?)

could America collapse from such a shift? not likely, but possible.

are we all going to die from something in the next few decades? absolutely!

so why not take the last few decades of your life and spend it on pleasant things and passing on your values to your children (that can only be accomplished with actual time spent with them, not by money and things acquired)

life is not the same as when our grandparents were young, and they will not be the same when your grand kids are adults.

none of this you can change to any great effect as an individual.

if your passion is politics fine get involved if you fear the catastrophic change, prep, as many of us do here.

but the endless bickering about one's political position and philosophy seems to me like a dog chasing his tail, (ok, wise guy you caught it, now what?)

or mental mastur****on, sure it feels nice to win, but aside from feeling better about yourself, what did you accomplish?
If I can get one person/family ta start ta put a little extra food/h2o/meds/money away each week,it's worth all the effort.'08.
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but the endless bickering about one's political position and philosophy seems to me like a dog chasing his tail, (ok, wise guy you caught it, now what?)

or mental mastur****on, sure it feels nice to win, but aside from feeling better about yourself, what did you accomplish?
When someone votes to take away my liberty, I find it offensive.

Maybe you feel differently.
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When someone votes to take away my liberty, I find it offensive.

Maybe you feel differently.
Offensive??? I think that's putting it lightly!

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