[swinokur]

what is securing the black cable? you don't want anyone to be able to disconnect the box from the duffel.

[geofri]

Originally Posted by swinokur

what is securing the black cable? you don't want anyone to be able to disconnect the box from the duffel.

Oops, didn't set that up right for the photo.

I swapped the cables around a bit too. Silver cable only serves to attach clothing and stuff to the box, should the grommets get ripped/cut out. Although, if the cable gets cut, it would be a quick snatch.

[swinokur]

looks great. safe flying sir.

[geofri]

Originally Posted by swinokur

looks great. safe flying sir.

Awesome thanks!


Now after getting all excited, my accommodations have been switched to Mobile. My Utah permit for reciprocity is ~40 days away from delivery. Bama won't accept my PA LTCF so I might have to just go unarmed. Won't be much help leaving it locked under the bed the entire trip.

It really is so frustrating and defeating to give up because it's too much of a hassle or nearly impossible to follow the laws.

I'll be ready for the next trip though!

[Dr. Leaky]

Tagged

[RussP]

Bumped for new members...

[1smoothredneck]

Thanks to the op for great info.

[quichedem]

This was a sticky, once upon a time. Why is it not anymore?

[DTGlock20]

I'm sitting in an airport right now returning from a business/fishing trip and I have to say that, using MAC's suggestions, flying with my firearm could not have been easier.

MAC, I appreciate you putting this together.

[MacG22]

Originally Posted by DTGlock20

I'm sitting in an airport right now returning from a business/fishing trip and I have to say that, using MAC's suggestions, flying with my firearm could not have been easier.

MAC, I appreciate you putting this together.

My pleasure man. Glad it worked for you.

[steveksux]

Don't remember if I mentioned it earlier, but Mac's guide worked splendidly for me as well on a recent trip to Vegas.

Only hitch was when they wanted to put the declaration inside the pistol case on the way out there. I talked them out of it without even needing a supervisor, just explained the rationale, and they were like "fine, whatever"...

And most importantly, I KNEW it was a hitch in the first place because of Mac's guide. Otherwise I would have let them do it, and could have ended up with some extra hassle had the bag been x-rayed with no declaration visible.

Thanks again, Mac...

Randy

[swinokur]

To the best of my knowledge, X-rays do not reveal the presence of the declaration tag. It would be visible if an additional TSA search of a bag was required however. IMO, without a tag on the outside of the locked gun case, a subsequent search would not determine if the bag had been checked in and screened properly.

My .02

[steveksux]

Originally Posted by swinokur

To the best of my knowledge, X-rays do not reveal the presence of the declaration tag. It would be visible if an additional TSA search of a bag was required however. IMO, without a tag on the outside of the locked gun case, a subsequent search would not determine if the bag had been checked in and screened properly.

My .02

Exactly my point... xrays reveal the gun, secondary search shows no declaration because the tag is in the locked case... Now what? Does the luggage stay behind? Do I get yanked off the plane before takeoff to explain, open the case, maybe miss the flight as a result? Maybe I make the flight but my bags don't? I'm in Vegas, bag is in Detroit, I have the only key, how's TSA going to handle it? Cut the locks to check the tag? Now how do I get the pistol? Wait until I get home?

Nothing earth shattering, but pretty inconvenient.

Randy

[swinokur]

IIRC. TSA cannot by law cut the locks off your locked gun case. Your bag yes, your gun case, no. If a question were to arise, FAA regs prohibit the bag being loaded on the aircraft. As you state, either way a huge inconvenience for the traveler.

[DTGlock20]

Oddly enough, when I was leaving from Minneapolis/St. Paul airport the Delta woman had me put the declaration in my locked case, but then I was escorted over to the TSA agent. I asked the TSA guy what they prefer and he said that since they do the escort over to the TSA scanner, inside the case was ok. When I was headed back from Anchorage yesterday, they had me put the declaration tag in the bag, but not the locked case, since I had to walk alone from the Delta desk to the TSA screener. Both situations were a piece of cake. I took my G20 up for this trip (bears, and lots of 'em), but since traveling with a firearm was so straight forward, I'm going to bring my carry gun (G26) with me when i travel from now on.

[chromedomepinoyboy]

Got my first trip under my belt and it was painless.

Flew American from Houston to Nashville and both ways were seamless. Flying out of Nashville the agent asked me to wait 10 minutes to see if TSA would need me, which they didn't but that was about it. Both ways I was instructed to place the card outside the box.

Thanks Mac!

[DaneA]

Russ,
Can we get this back up as a sticky? Much easier to reference folks to.

Thanks!

[Cavalry Doc]

I have carried mine to multiple destinations. Just be aware, sometimes is it no problem at all, and you can expect to be congratulated on your choice of gear, and sometimes you get the new guy. Of all places, flying out of Fayettville, NC, When I told the TSA guy that I was declaring a firearm, he freaked, told me to take two steps back, and turn around in a loud enough voice to be heard inside the entire terminal. Long story short, I'd tell the whole story, but it sounds too good to be true, just say that all ended well in less than 5 minutes.


Be calm and know your stuff before you get to the airport, check the laws in every city you might land in, and be good.


Excellent OP, and I vote for it to be a sticky!!

[MacG22]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

I have carried mine to multiple destinations. Just be aware, sometimes is it no problem at all, and you can expect to be congratulated on your choice of gear, and sometimes you get the new guy. Of all places, flying out of Fayettville, NC, When I told the TSA guy that I was declaring a firearm, he freaked, told me to take two steps back, and turn around in a loud enough voice to be heard inside the entire terminal. Long story short, I'd tell the whole story, but it sounds too good to be true, just say that all ended well in less than 5 minutes.


Be calm and know your stuff before you get to the airport, check the laws in every city you might land in, and be good.


Excellent OP, and I vote for it to be a sticky!!

Funny you mention this. I've actually met more anti-gun folks from the Carolinas than I ever thought I would. Some of the most dedicated Brady people I've met in real life were NC and SC.

[4Rules]

I took my gun on a airplane for the first time, and it was much easier than getting it across town in Washington, D.C. The most difficult part of the process on Sunday was figuring out how to legally transport my firearm from my home in the District to Reagan National Airport in Virginia. The rest was -- surprisingly -- a breeze.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/aug/19/miller-flying-gun/

[SCmasterblaster]

I'd have a very good holster for my G17, for I need both hands/arms to fly (!)

[4Rules]

ABC News - Sept. 28, 2012
A convicted TSA security officer says he was part of a "culture" of indifference that allowed corrupt employees to prey on passengers' luggage and personal belongings with impunity, thanks to lax oversight and tip-offs from TSA colleagues.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/convicted-tsa-officer-reveals-secrets-thefts-airports/story?id=17339513#.UGyZrhgn_Jw

[SCmasterblaster]

Originally Posted by swinokur

To the best of my knowledge, X-rays do not reveal the presence of the declaration tag. It would be visible if an additional TSA search of a bag was required however. IMO, without a tag on the outside of the locked gun case, a subsequent search would not determine if the bag had been checked in and screened properly.

My .02

Someone should invent one - an x-rayable declaration tag.

[MacG22]

Originally Posted by 4Rules

ABC News - Sept. 28, 2012
A convicted TSA security officer says he was part of a "culture" of indifference that allowed corrupt employees to prey on passengers' luggage and personal belongings with impunity, thanks to lax oversight and tip-offs from TSA colleagues.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/convicted-tsa-officer-reveals-secrets-thefts-airports/story?id=17339513#.UGyZrhgn_Jw

I missed this earlier. Good article, and exactly why I secure the firearm inside the bag. I've never had any issue, but I feel better having been more careful.

[ChiTownPicaro]

This has been a great and handy thread. Thanks for sharing.