[unclecharlie]

As the umpteen threads on "My 17/19/22/23 FTE'd" have taught us, Glocks don't like limp-wristing, and they don't like low-power ammo. They are "optimized for full-power defensive loads". IIRC, several responses have been that shooters should run a couple hundred full-power loads through the guns to break them in and minimize FTEs.

So, which commonly-available, factory range ammunition is hot enough to qualify as "full-power" (especially in 9mm and .40, which seem to be the most popular calibers for this discussion)?


-Charlie


BTW, I'm one of the people who was having issues- in my case, NOT limp-wristing (and yes, I had an instructor back me up), and did not seem to be magazine- or ammo-related. So I traded guns. We'll see....

[unclecharlie]

Guess that should have read, "Full-power 9mm/.40 range ammo".
Oops.


--Charlie

[SDGlock23]

It depends of your definition of "full power". If by full power you mean typical speeds for the particular bullet weight, almost any factory ammo would qualify. WWB 165gr FMJ is loaded light and there may be a few others, but most fodder you buy off the shelves will be loaded "normal".

If by "full power" you mean pushing that cartridge to the limit of what it can do, you'll have to reload. No factory will produce such loads, it's a liability thing. But it can be done and done safely, but you'll have to do it yourself.

[glocksterr]

glocks and FULL power .40 ammo???

KABOOM!

[khufford]

Speer Lawman is probably a good choice. LEO's use it to practice because it shoots the same as the Gold Dots they carry.

[pimuk]

I make my life easy by using or selecting if I could find ones, 180 grain JHPs/FMJs from Fed, Rem, Speer/CCI and Win because they are "fully-specced" at 1,000 fps vicinity and it was what the .40 was designed around.

The S&B, in my G-23, clocked 30-40 fps lower than the U.S. counterparts but functioned the gun fine.

The mix of 155- and 165-grain from those factories vary from 985-1,050-1,060-1130, 1150 to 1200 etc. but I hate to remember.

BTW, Speer Gold Dot 165 grain police load clocked at 1,006 fps out of my G 23 did not give me malfunction.

[glocksterr]

Originally Posted by pimuk

BTW, Speer Gold Dot 165 grain police load clocked at 1,006 fps out of my G 23 did not give me malfunction.

i think they have two 165gr. loads.

[voyager4520]

American Eagle.

That is all.

Seriously, I've never chronographed any loads but the stated velocity/muzzle energy of American Eagle is higher than any other big-name factory FMJ load I've seen.

I've also shot Blazer Brass and PMC Bronze through my .40s with no problems, but the residue that Blazer Brass leaves literally stinks and it just doesn't seem the same quality as American Eagle and PMC Bronze. Blazer Brass and PMC Bronze have a relatively low stated muzzle velocity when compared to other brands.

Originally Posted by glocksterr

i think they have two 165gr. loads.

There are two different LE labeled 165gr boxes. One is 100fps faster than the other. The civilian labeled 165gr boxes are the same stated muzzle velocity as the "hotter-loaded" 165gr LE box.

[Quigley]

I have shot WWB, American Eagle, Blazer, PMI, Federal, Remington, and many more through my G22 and G27 without any problems.

[Laramie In MT]

Originally Posted by khufford

Speer Lawman is probably a good choice. LEO's use it to practice because it shoots the same as the Gold Dots they carry.

This, stuff is a little snappy IME.

Originally Posted by glocksterr

i think they have two 165gr. loads.

I can't find it on the Speer website, but at least in the past, there were 2 variations of Speer GDHP 165gr. The 2 variations differed by 50-100 fps, but I can't find it now, but I know there was a different, I still have a box of the hotter 165gr.

[timbob]

Originally Posted by Laramie In MT

This, stuff is a little snappy IME.



I can't find it on the Speer website, but at least in the past, there were 2 variations of Speer GDHP 165gr. The 2 variations differed by 50-100 fps, but I can't find it now, but I know there was a different, I still have a box of the hotter 165gr.

I agree on the snappiness of the Speer Lawman.

[albyihat]

i have always bought the winchester fmj in 165gr and have had no problems in my g22
but when i reload i try to keep speeds to 900fps using 165gr. this speed seems to have best accuracy and feel at least for me.

[Ak.Hiker]

Originally Posted by khufford

Speer Lawman is probably a good choice. LEO's use it to practice because it shoots the same as the Gold Dots they carry.

Good choice.

[Ak.Hiker]

Originally Posted by glocksterr

i think they have two 165gr. loads.

The 165 grain Speer Lawman is listed at 1150. The Speer Lawman Clean Fire is listed at 1050.

[pimuk]

www.le.atk.com has it:

[Eagle22]

Shoot what you have and be good at it.
I prefer 180g but also have some 165g.

I agree with voyager4520 about the Blazer Brass. Smells a bit more, is a bit dirtier, and IMO not as accurate as the same wt Federal or Speer.