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Old 04-12-2010, 10:43   #1
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CED M2 Range Review

It was warm and snow free down the hill yesterday so decided to take the new CED M2 chronograph out for a test drive. My shooting buddy, Deak, brought his Chrony brand chronograph so we could run a comparison between the two.

Just to get the big question out of the way... NO, I did not end up shooting the chronograph unlike at least one other member of the forum who has shot a CED but out of sheer politeness shall remain nameless. (C4W isn't actually a name, is it?)

Set up of the CED was simple, taking about 3 minutes and requiring only the addition of a tripod. I just used my spotting scope tripod. The machine comes with two fairly heavy duty 20 foot cords that resisted blowing around in the breeze plus are long enough to allow shooting high power rifles even with a muzzle break.

The computer/display console sits very sturdily on a table, shooting bench or even the ground at your feet, safely out of the way of errant shots. The actual flip up display is very large and easily readable even in bright sunlight. Think of it as a heads-up display on an aircraft canopy, it provides multiple areas of information at one time, well positioned and easily discernible.

Being one who is severely mechanically challenged, learning how to unscrew a Diet Pepsi bottle required a three week correspondence course, I was more than intimidated with the thought of mastering this little marvel of modern technology.

I must say that I was more than pleasantly surprised at its ease of operation. The instruction manual is actually one of the better ones of any piece of equipment I have ever bought. Very well laid out, all features explained in a way that even I, someone who can't spell CAT without being spotted the C and the T can readily understand. The manual is set up in a way that if one needs information on a specific button on the key pad it is exceedingly easy to simply flip to that button description in the manual and totally understand its function within a few seconds. Kudos to the author of the manual.

If you've put off purchasing a chronograph because of its perceived complexities rest assured your fears are unfounded, at least with the CED.

The CED actually comes with a speaker button that can be activated when you simply want to register shots but not take the time to glance over at the display. After the shot there is an approximately one second delay then a digitally produced voice announces the result of the shot... the announcement is easily heard while wearing a set of electronic earmuffs. A fun little feature.

Oh, one more word about the display. It is easily big enough to set the entire chronograph at say the hundred or two hundred yard line and read the result of a shot through either a rifle or spotting scope.

The comparison began with Deak's Chrony. Out of the first ten shots we got one actual reading and 9, code 122 error messages. Thinking that a weak battery might be the culprit we inserted a new one. No change. The morning sky was overcast so it should have been working without diffusers but we installed them anyway. No real improvement. Changed distances from the muzzle, changed the angle toward the sun... nothing seemed to help. I was beginning to have concerns if the CED would do any better.

Switched to the CED, out of a little more than one hundred shots we didn't get one shot to fail to register or read 'error' in any way. Recording separate strings was as simple as pushing a button as was calculating the average speed of a particular string, hi-low velocity in a string or any other desired information.

All in all the machine was exceedingly easy to use and a nifty little toy when paper punching or steel clanging get a bit boring.

I must say that this was the first time I've actually checked the charge throwing accuracy of the powder measures on my Dillons and LNL's. All the recorded shots were amazingly consistent, using different powders, different bullet weights and different powders, etc. Using very low throws of Bullseye in the grandson's .38 loads showed the most inconsistency but this is pretty much to be expected. The goal of the loads are to simply teach him gun handling safety and familiarize him with centerfire shooting. While probably not accurate enough for NRA target shooting they are more than accurate for hitting steel at 20 yards.

At $199.95 the CED seems to be well worth the money and an additional $35 for the custom fitted carry bag is certainly a convenient safeguard against inadvertent damage.

I'll post a separate thread of my other new toy... the Brass Wizard. A definite back saver.

Jack
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:26   #2
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It's a nice setup. Now you know why I recommend it. Couple points. When you use the Power Factor button you can power factor any function you press. So if you pressed SD (standard deviation) and then press PF twice it gives you the PF of your SD. So you just want to press AVG and then PF. Also, you can edit out shots easily with the review button and then just press edit. I really like the setup. I can send you a PDF or a Word file with the Chrono Log that we use as well.

For the record, I never have shot a chrono. I did shoot the edge of the fancy wood box I made for the chrono. That doesn't count does it?? Here is a picture of the box we use and I nicked. The holes are smaller then the screens so it's easier to hit the box then the chrono.

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Old 04-12-2010, 11:56   #3
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I cant believe you shot Lizards chrono box.

Bad man.
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Old 04-12-2010, 17:05   #4
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Reminds me of a story. When I was in Europe as a child we used to take sking lessons in Austria. First day of a week long lesson we all were in line introducing ourselves. This cute little ski bunny, with all new skis, poles, ski suit, googles was next to me. Instructor let her say "Hi my name is ....." and when she was done he took his ski pool and slamed it onto the top of her brand new perfect skis. Said "Welcome to Austria" and went on with the introductions as if nothing else had occured. Can't believe it took so long for someone to shoot the thing. I did just nick the edge. I will sign it latter with a big black pen.
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Old 04-12-2010, 18:32   #5
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Last Thursday a friend of mine and I went too the range. I wanted too test some shotgun rounds over my CED chronograph. And practice some GSSF shooting for the two matches I have coming up at the end of the month. Thought it would be a good idea since I have not picked up a Glock in over two months.
Anyway I shot the shotgun rounds that I wanted too test. I figured if I was going too shot the chronograph this is the time it would happen. Nope all was still in one piece. So I set up the Glock M course of fire and started shooting it and my friend used the chronograph too test some loads in his Glock 17. So I was constrating on my shooting and left him alone.
Then I happened too look over and the Left front sky screen is flopping in the breeze in two pieces. A little bit of Loctite Super Glue it is almost like new. So in 10 years I have not shot my chronograph even thought it has been hit. Just still not by me.
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Last Thursday a friend of mine and I went too the range. I wanted too test some shotgun rounds over my CED chronograph. And practice some GSSF shooting for the two matches I have coming up at the end of the month. Thought it would be a good idea since I have not picked up a Glock in over two months.
Anyway I shot the shotgun rounds that I wanted too test. I figured if I was going too shot the chronograph this is the time it would happen. Nope all was still in one piece. So I set up the Glock M course of fire and started shooting it and my friend used the chronograph too test some loads in his Glock 17. So I was constrating on my shooting and left him alone.
Then I happened too look over and the Left front sky screen is flopping in the breeze in two pieces. A little bit of Loctite Super Glue it is almost like new. So in 10 years I have not shot my chronograph even thought it has been hit. Just still not by me.


Let me guess... your friend is a six foot tall invisible rabbit named Harvey.

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Old 04-12-2010, 18:40   #7
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C4W..i assume you are using the infared sreens in your wooden box ? Only problem i have encountered is on an overcast day with error readings. I am tempted get the infareds.
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Let me guess... your friend is a six foot tall invisible rabbit named Harvey.

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Now Jack if we was invisible then I could not see him.
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Now Jack if we was invisible then I could not see him.

Don't yell at me, I'm grumpy. Heading off to bed, have to get up at 3AM to drive to Phoenix.

Finally get to wear shorts for the first time in five months. (Probably going to be too damn hot. I'm hard to please.)

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C4W..i assume you are using the infared sreens in your wooden box ? Only problem i have encountered is on an overcast day with error readings. I am tempted get the infareds.
Yep. IR screens.
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Thanks C4W..looks like my next purchase is the IR screens and rechargeable battery pack.
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