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Old 04-15-2010, 17:40   #1
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Need help with 1st tactical shotgun

I've never owned a tactical shotgun, or any shotgun for that matter. I would like some feedback on what you guys think is the perfect 1st shotgun for someone. It will be used for home defense and if shtf. Thanks in advance gt. I see the remington 870 seems to be pretty popular, is this the one?
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Old 04-15-2010, 17:55   #2
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Remington 870, Mossberg 500/590 are the popular ones.
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Old 04-15-2010, 17:59   #3
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Remington 870, Mossberg 500/590 are the popular ones.
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Old 04-15-2010, 18:06   #4
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What about the mossberg 930 spx? Vs the rem 870
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Old 04-15-2010, 18:20   #5
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What about the mossberg 930 spx? Vs the rem 870
I’ve got both the 930 SPX and the Remington 870 (25077) . I love my 930 SPX with over 600 shells fired mostly low brass target loads with no malefactions. But there is something about a pump. I have five 00 buck in my extended magazine tube.
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Old 04-15-2010, 18:39   #6
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All good suggestions so far.If you are on a tight budget get a Maverick.tom.
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Old 04-15-2010, 19:10   #7
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All good suggestions so far.If you are on a tight budget get a Maverick.tom.
That is a good answer. That way if you don't like the .73 rifle your not out a lot of $$
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Old 04-15-2010, 19:19   #8
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The 870 seems to be the most popular, with the Mossberg coming in second. The Maverick is invariably mentioned as a cheaper alternative. However the NEF Pardner is another option . Those that don't own one will bash it, but those that do own one are fond of them.

I like mine.

I am 200+ shells into it and I have yet to have a malfunction of any kind.
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Old 04-15-2010, 19:51   #9
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mossberg 500 if u got the extra cash get the 870 its a solid gun
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:23   #10
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I have got to ask. If you have never owned a shotgun, why are you selecting that weapon for HD? If it is to fill out a battery I understand, but if this is your HD starting point I'd sure look at things. The shotgun is the toughest platform to learn to use well.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:54   #11
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The shotgun is the toughest platform to learn to use well.
I dunno about the toughest to use well but it's the easiest to use period. Pump, click, pump, click while aiming in the general proximity beats anything else.
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I dunno about the toughest to use well but it's the easiest to use period.
Having trained a lot of folks on a lot of different platforms I'd have to disagree with that.
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Pump, click, pump, click while aiming in the general proximity beats anything else.
That statement is an excellent example of why people need to get some training in shotguns. Almost anything beats "pump, click while aiming in the general proximity."
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I dunno about the toughest to use well but it's the easiest to use period. Pump, click, pump, click while aiming in the general proximity beats anything else.
Everyone hears that, then can't understand why their shoulder gets bruised up so bad: bad posture and not keeping the gun pressed firmly into their shoulder while shooting.
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Old 04-16-2010, 17:46   #14
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the hardest plaform to learn to shoot well is a handgun hands down.a shotgun is fairly easy operate
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Old 04-16-2010, 19:40   #15
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I have got to ask. If you have never owned a shotgun, why are you selecting that weapon for HD? If it is to fill out a battery I understand, but if this is your HD starting point I'd sure look at things. The shotgun is the toughest platform to learn to use well.
It would not be my only HD gun, I have several others. It is just what I can imagine using it for. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:01   #16
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My first tactical shotgun was an M4. I skipped all the intermediate steps working up to it. However, I think perhapse I will add an 870 at some point.
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:27   #17
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the easiest gun to shoot for a novice is a double action revolver.

the pump shotgun doesn't matter, but it's good to have choke tubes, or a second barrel, for hunting purposes. Literally doesn't matter, be it Winchester, Ithaca 37, recyled riot gun, or two credit cards worth of the latest and greatest.

Shotguns are deadly AT CLOSE RANGE WITH HEAVY LOADS.. Don't hunt folks with birdshot, stay under 40 yards with buck and 75 with slugs until you're darn well sure your skill matches or exceeds your expectations. The gun is cheap, the training & necessary ammo isn't.
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Old 04-17-2010, 09:21   #18
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I've always been an 870 man. I have a Mossberg, but I like 870's.
870's are solid, reliable, and there seems to be more parts out
there to customize with.
Go to JD's site, www.aiptactical.com and read some of the information
he as there about 870's and defensive shotguns in general.
It may give you some more insight and help you make up your mind.
Good luck on your choice.
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:32   #19
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Everybody knows you have a higher hit probability with one trigger pull of a shoulder fired shotgun vs one trigger pull of a handgun (1 bullet vs 9 shots of 00-buck)

It doesnt take rocket science and ninja tactical shotgun combat skills to learn to use a pump shotgun for home defense "effectively". Key word is effectively not LEO or soldier combat proficiently just simple home defense effective.

It takes training but basically its simple, my wife locks the bedroom door, grabs the 12 gauge, calls 911, takes cover behind the bed to make herself a small target and uses the bed as a bench to aim the shotgun at the fatal funnel (the door way) and yells out I have a gun, go away I called 911.

If he still breaks in, BANG! 9 shots of 00-buck all at once...vs 1 shot of 40 cal which could be harder for my wife to hit COM while scared, pumped up full of adrenaline and stressed.

She aint gonna be doing a building search, or pieing corners or breaching doors ect ect...

This is not everyones mindset and I dont loose sleep worrying about it because my wife is handy with her G19 also.

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Old 04-17-2010, 14:30   #20
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a shotgun is fairly easy operate
Yes, as is a handgun. Both are hard to learn to operate well.

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Key work is effectively not LEO or soldier combat proficiently just simple home defense effective.
I think one can make a pretty good case that LEO effectiveness level is the MINIMUM needed for "home defense effective".

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It would not be my only HD gun, I have several others. It is just what I can imagine using it for.
Great. As part of a battery it makes good sense, as the start of the battery maybe not so much.

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