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Old 04-27-2010, 19:17   #1
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Thoughts on 10mm 1911s...

I'm very interested in getting one. I've read that 1911s in 10mm can often be a little problematic, so I'm wondering if there is a specific make that has a proven 10mm track record. I have fired two Deltas and both had far too many FTFs for me to justify investing in one. So I scratched Colt of the list.

Dan Wesson no longer makes 10mm in the 2010 line up, and I heard they were good. I'm also considering Kimber, even though I'm not a huge fan of them. I have one, but they don't shoot like any of my customs do (Wilson, Brown). I'm looking for something in the $1500 range, and this will be a woods and target pistol. I'm not looking to make this my EDC.

Fusion Arms looks like they make fine 1911s. I just don't know how good they are in 10mm...and they make long-slide versions as well.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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I was all set on a Fusion myself, but I came across a NIB unfired 2009 DW CBOB in 10mm and sent the funds for it yesterday.

Fusion has a huge 10mm lineup and yes they have quite a few long slides, still eyeballing one of those as well.
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Old 04-28-2010, 02:28   #3
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DW if you can get one soon.
Kimber also.
Wilson for $250 over .45 price.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:30   #4
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Tanfoglio Witness in steel, fullsized. Gotta watch your OAL on the cartridges if you handload, but mine's 100% reliable.
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Old 04-28-2010, 17:39   #5
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I'm curious, in the Deltas you fired, were they the original Deltas, circa 1981/2, or the new ones? or both? I have a DExxxxx I bought in 1987 and it's been very reliable.

If you can find a DW they are built well. The RZs have a more robust frame than the cast framed Pointman, but I load hot and tend to get smiles from my RZ. I do like the fully supported chamber on the Kimbers, but I sold my Eclipse because it was not reliable. I carry a Wilson CQB now, and love it. I suppose you could keep an eye out for a used one...probably be fairly close to $1500.

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Old 04-28-2010, 19:15   #6
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Cabela's currently has the Dan Wesson RZ10 on sale for $1200. They must have stockpiled them before they went out of production...
http://cabelasflyers.dirxion.com/89v...kCode=89v10flx
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I'm curious, in the Deltas you fired, were they the original Deltas, circa 1981/2, or the new ones?
The two that I fired were fairly new, I'm not sure of the dates. I've read the older ones held up better.

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Cabela's currently has the Dan Wesson RZ10 on sale for $1200. They must have stockpiled them before they went out of production...
http://cabelasflyers.dirxion.com/89v...kCode=89v10flx
Now that is something to consider!! I may very well do that...want to find a few more pics though first. Thanks for letting me know!


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Old 04-28-2010, 23:37   #8
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Cabela's Reno has a new DW Sportsman. Improved over the Razorback in stock. Can't remember the price but can check. You could also call them and order it by phone for shipping to your FFL.
I own one and am really happy with it, as I am my Glock 20 and 29.
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I'm curious, in the Deltas you fired, were they the original Deltas, circa 1981/2, or the new ones? or both? I have a DExxxxx I bought in 1982 and it's been very reliable.
Your dates for the 10 MM is a little off, first Colt DE was in '87, the new DE started in '09 just so you know.

Here's my '89 model that's a sweet shooter and would love to carry, but Glocks 20 at $525 is half the value and easy to replace, not an early Colt DE in like new shape.

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Your dates for the 10 MM is a little off, first Colt DE was in '87, the new DE started in '09 just so you know.

Here's my '89 model that's a sweet shooter and would love to carry, but Glocks 20 at $525 is half the value and easy to replace, not an early Colt DE in like new shape.

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That Colt DE looks great brother.
Thanks it is a fun shooter, but not as accurate for me as my 20 or 29 for some reason. That said any one of the three is deadly in my hand well beyond 25 yards.

Should have of seen looks of some local city cops as I fired off a fast 15 from the G20 at the 25 yard range and all where the were needed. What was better then that was I found all 15 cases.
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Thanks it is a fun shooter, but not as accurate for me as my 20 or 29 for some reason. That said any one of the three is deadly in my hand well beyond 25 yards.

Should have of seen looks of some local city cops as I fired off a fast 15 from the G20 at the 25 yard range and all where the were needed. What was better then that was I found all 15 cases.
I have me new to me G29 SF, with a 10MM CBOB en route, now I'm debating on whether to build a Custom G20 using a LW slide or a full size 1911 in 10MM.

This 10MM stuff gets addicting.
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[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;15198900]I'm very interested in getting one. I've read that 1911s in 10mm can often be a little problematic, so I'm wondering if there is a specific make that has a proven 10mm track record. I have fired two Deltas and both had far too many FTFs for me to justify investing in one. So I scratched Colt of the list.

Dan Wesson no longer makes 10mm in the 2010 line up, and I heard they were good. I'm also considering Kimber, even though I'm not a huge fan of them. I have one, but they don't shoot like any of my customs do (Wilson, Brown). I'm looking for something in the $1500 range, and this will be a woods and target pistol. I'm not looking to make this my EDC.

Fusion Arms looks like they make fine 1911s. I just don't know how good they are in 10mm...and they make long-slide versions as well.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


1911 10mm? Why? I wouldn't go out in the woods with a 10mm 1911. IMO, the 1911 10mm pistol makes for a nice "range gun". You know what that means? I don't trust it to save my life. If you want a the best 10mm pistol on the market get the G20 period.
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I'm very interested in getting one. I've read that 1911s in 10mm can often be a little problematic, so I'm wondering if there is a specific make that has a proven 10mm track record. I have fired two Deltas and both had far too many FTFs for me to justify investing in one. So I scratched Colt of the list.

Dan Wesson no longer makes 10mm in the 2010 line up, and I heard they were good. I'm also considering Kimber, even though I'm not a huge fan of them. I have one, but they don't shoot like any of my customs do (Wilson, Brown). I'm looking for something in the $1500 range, and this will be a woods and target pistol. I'm not looking to make this my EDC.

Fusion Arms looks like they make fine 1911s. I just don't know how good they are in 10mm...and they make long-slide versions as well.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


1911 10mm? Why? I wouldn't go out in the woods with a 10mm 1911. IMO, the 1911 10mm pistol makes for a nice "range gun". You know what that means? I don't trust it to save my life. If you want a the best 10mm pistol on the market get the G20 period.
Actually all 1911's can be problematic due having been designed for ball ammo, with 2 piece feed ramps, and internal extractors that was later corrected by Mr. Browning on his famous Hi-Power. I think some custom 1911 barrel and gun makers have gone to one piece feed ramps, some external extractors. S&W's 1911's have external extractor for ejection reliablity, someone told me that DW 1911's were external extractor and one piece barrel and feed ramp but never checked to see.

In all the rounds through S&W 4506/1006 models with external extractor and one piece barrel feed ramp that was basically a double action 1911, these were probably the most reliable semi-auto DA hand gun ever made.

Ok I climb down now off soap box.
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Actually all 1911's can be problematic due having been designed for ball ammo, with 2 piece feed ramps, and internal extractors that was later corrected by Mr. Browning on his famous Hi-Power. I think some custom 1911 barrel and gun makers have gone to one piece feed ramps, some external extractors. S&W's 1911's have external extractor for ejection reliablity, someone told me that DW 1911's were external extractor and one piece barrel and feed ramp but never checked to see.

In all the rounds through S&W 4506/1006 models with external extractor and one piece barrel feed ramp that was basically a double action 1911, these were probably the most reliable semi-auto DA hand gun ever made.

Ok I climb down now off soap box.


I wholeheartedly agree.......the only 10mm pistols I will own is either the fine S&W 10mm pistols or the Glock 20. If you want a 1911 stick to the 45acp calibre.
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1911 10mm? Why? I wouldn't go out in the woods with a 10mm 1911. IMO, the 1911 10mm pistol makes for a nice "range gun". You know what that means? I don't trust it to save my life. If you want a the best 10mm pistol on the market get the G20 period.
Um...yes, I'm very well aware of what a "range gun" is . And I all ready have a G20sf with a KKM barrel, adj. mepros, trigger job, 3.5# connector, and talon grips.

I have several 1911s chambered in .45ACP, I'd like to find a 1911 in 10mm because I get a better, longer, and a more accurate range with my 1911s compared to my Glocks. Also, I may decide to hunt with it and I will need a 6" barrel. Sure, I could toss one in my G20 and add a long slide as well...and I'm thinking about doing that.

Right now though, I'm going to have Fusion build me a 10mm long-slide as I've heard great things about them with the 10mm cartridge. Something like this...

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Um...yes, I'm very well aware of what a "range gun" is . And I all ready have a G20sf with a KKM barrel, adj. mepros, trigger job, 3.5# connector, and talon grips.

I have several 1911s chambered in .45ACP, I'd like to find a 1911 in 10mm because I get a better, longer, and a more accurate range with my 1911s compared to my Glocks. Also, I may decide to hunt with it and I will need a 6" barrel. Sure, I could toss one in my G20 and add a long slide as well...and I'm thinking about doing that.

Right now though, I'm going to have Fusion build me a 10mm long-slide as I've heard great things about them with the 10mm cartridge. Something like this...

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That is nice, WOW. I've been eyeballing the fusions for some time in 10mm.
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I wholeheartedly agree.......the only 10mm pistols I will own is either the fine S&W 10mm pistols or the Glock 20. If you want a 1911 stick to the 45acp calibre.
Well I agree sort of, I feel fine carrying my 1911 10mm, but not like my Glock but my Glocks do have 1911 type safeties. Besides the 1911 DE it's too valuable as collector gun to carry and maybe have to turn into a crime lab.

The 1911 45ACP can be very finicky and unreliable with anything but ball unless very well tuned and even then if brand or type of bullet change it can be very lacking in reliability.
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[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;15216986]Um...yes, I'm very well aware of what a "range gun" is . And I all ready have a G20sf with a KKM barrel, adj. mepros, trigger job, 3.5# connector, and talon grips.

I have several 1911s chambered in .45ACP, I'd like to find a 1911 in 10mm because I get a better, longer, and a more accurate range with my 1911s compared to my Glocks. Also, I may decide to hunt with it and I will need a 6" barrel. Sure, I could toss one in my G20 and add a long slide as well...and I'm thinking about doing that.

Right now though, I'm going to have Fusion build me a 10mm long-slide as I've heard great things about them with the 10mm cartridge. Something like this...

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Very nice........actually one of the nicest looking 1911's I've ever seen. Still, nice for lookin' but not for workin'.
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Well I agree sort of, I feel fine carrying my 1911 10mm, but not like my Glock but my Glocks do have 1911 type safeties. Besides the 1911 DE it's too valuable as collector gun to carry and maybe have to turn into a crime lab.

The 1911 45ACP can be very finicky and unreliable with anything but ball unless very well tuned and even then if brand or type of bullet change it can be very lacking in reliability.
Cool, no problem......but if I'm in the deep woods there are only two 10mm pistols I trust....a S&W 10 mill or a Glock 10 mill.
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