930SPX Updates?

F_G · 05-17-2010, 06:32

I ordered my 930SPX a month and a half ago and still haven't received it. It's not like I'm in a hurry or anything, but it got me to wondering whether Mossberg might have suspended production to address all the "issues" they've had.

It seems all the errornet chatter is close to 50/50. "It's the best shotgun I've ever owned", "80,000 rounds and I haven't even cleaned it yet" on the other side, "Handles full power 00 fine, but won't reliably cycle Walmart stuff", "Fell apart in my hands when I took it out of the box", "Front sight soldered on the bottom of the barrel".

I know a few have them here, Mixflip did a very good evaluation. So how has your 930 held up? You guys should have combined for several thousand rounds by now. Let me hear what you think after living with the beast for awhile.

Why am I so enamored with this shotgun? First off I've never been much of a Mossberg fan. But I shoot lefthanded and an auto shotgun with a tang mounted safety entrigues me. I have an 870P and Benelli M1 Super 90, but both have trigger guard mounted safeties. I have the 870 switched to left hand, but it worries me when my kids or friends use the gun that they are walking around with the safety off, and heaven forbid they need it for a "situation" and flick the safety on, instead of off, rendering it useless.

So what say ye 930 owners? Yea or nay?

AC45ACP · 05-17-2010, 07:44

Well I have around 275 rds threw mine and only 4 FTE and those were on Winchester target loads from walmart 7.5 and #8 shot and the all happend after 50 plus rds shot down range. 00 and slugs went 100% and 96+% on cheap target ammo works for me!
I have a few pics on another thead if you look it up I have a picture of a target that I got two head shots in a 100yds standing. pretty quick I would say both shots in under 2 seconds. So I'm happy with mine so far.
I may change the Camo

frankr · 05-17-2010, 11:15

I’ve hit the 1,000 shell mark through my 930 SPX with out one malfunction. I’ve shot my share of 1 oz slugs and 9 pellet 00 buck, but most of the shells I’ve put through my 930 SPX are the 100 shell Remington target load vale park from Wal-Mart. As far as I’m concerned for the money you can not beat the 930 SPX. At our 2 gun matches my 930 SPX has functioned as good if not better than shotguns two and three times more than what I paid for 930 SPX.

F_G · 05-17-2010, 21:01

AC45ACP & frankr, thanks for the replies. But are you 2 the only guys using and abusing this particular weapon? I know I've seen more than 2 guys discussing this shotgun. What has been your experience up to now?

frankr · 05-18-2010, 03:05

There are a number of 930 SPX owners on GT that having nothing but good things to say about their 930 SPX. mixflip has a number of reviews and instructional video’s about his gun on Youtube. Most of the problems with the 930 SPX you may have heard about were do to the owner not knowing the gun. First thing after you receive your gun is to read the owners manual and review mixflip’s video on field stripping and reassembly of the 930 SPX. During this process give the gun a good cleaning. By now you will be familiar enough to go to the range. Start of with some high brass hunting loads, then a few 00 buck to feel the recoil. Then load her up with some low brass Dove loads or target loads and have fun. I shoot the Remington value pack or Remington Dove loads from Wal-Mart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKpNy2***N4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vclvn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9uNb...eature=related

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

skynyrd1911 · 05-18-2010, 08:19

I've had mine awhile now and it has functioned almost flawlessly. I have only put about 300 rounds through it to date. The only shells that I had ANY problem with was some Winchester military surplus buckshot. OD green hulls in plain brown boxes. I have fired Winchester high brass, Remington economy shells #6's from WalMart, Federal 00 buck, and Winchester "RackMaster" slugs. The RackMasters are designed to be used with a smoothbore or rifled barrel. The military surplus 00 buck empies hung up a couple of times ejecting. Not bad just plucked them out with my finger. May shoot it some more after reading this thread.

frankr · 05-18-2010, 08:46

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Originally Posted by skynyrd1911

I've had mine awhile now and it has functioned almost flawlessly. I have only put about 300 rounds through it to date. The only shells that I had ANY problem with was some Winchester military surplus buckshot. OD green hulls in plain brown boxes. I have fired Winchester high brass, Remington economy shells #6's from WalMart, Federal 00 buck, and Winchester "RackMaster" slugs. The RackMasters are designed to be used with a smoothbore or rifled barrel. The military surplus 00 buck empies hung up a couple of times ejecting. Not bad just plucked them out with my finger. May shoot it some more after reading this thread.

The only home defense shells I keep in my gun our the ones I know will function 100%. Remington 00 buck or Winchester 00 buck for my home defense. I also know the patter I will get with the rounds at a number of determined distances within my house. All other shells are for fun shooting. Keep shooting and stay safe.

mixflip · 05-18-2010, 12:08

Hey FG, I think with any new firearm product you will have some growing pains with first run models. I have heard of the slight off kilter front sight issue on a few first run models. From what I have read Mossberg identified the issue at the factory and rectified it immediately and if you accidentally get one they ship you the fixed product asap? From what I heard anyways? I have also heard that if you look at it from the muzzle you can actually spot the defect in the gun shop before you buy it? You just have to be diligent and meticulous.

On reliability of shooting cheap low brass ammo? Mine has ran cheap ammo like a water. (I should pattent that phrase since I use it so much when talking about my 930 lol)

I know Frank has also had great results with cheap ammo so my data says we got a good gun. If a 930 isnt running right all I can say is, did you clean it properly before breaking it in? Or are you shooting it from the hip or over your head with cheap ammo? The 930 does need a solid shoulder to recoil off of with low brass birdshot ammo. With 00-buck it should cycle from any position? Almost any semi-auto shotgun needs that though and its not just a 930 issue.

The sights! OMG, they are awesome for long shots. I will never claim to be a great shooter but the GRS made me hit stuff at 75 yards with a slug with ease. One of my videos shows me hitting a 2x6 plank at about 75 yards without zeroing the factory sight. I am sure not all 930's are that good out of the box but mine was so thats what I reported in my review. I dont think I could do that as easily with my bead sight 590. Realistically I will not being taking long shots with my shotgun but at least I have the option in a SHTF scenario to drop in a slug and take one if I need one? The option is nice and a shotgun is probably the king of versatility.

I'll do an update/progress review video probably this weekend since I am creeping up on 1000 rounds myself. This time I'll try some run & gun stuff with some weapons transitions, shooting from odd angles, reloads and verbal commands to some imaginary bad guys???

AC45ACP · 05-18-2010, 16:48

Well Went to the Range the other day and shot a few slugs and about 50rds of winchester 7 1/2 shot target loads. I had two FTE once again sprayed a little Remoil in the chamber and She was GTG. I also ran that thing now stop for over 50rds of Bird shot and 00 buck and about 15 slugs before I had the FTE. The slugs and 00 Buck run flawless So I'm happy with that, because thats
how it sits..

Mixflip,
I love the Video's I watched them about 50 times before they finally convinced me to Buy a SPX!!

The 223 holes are form my buddy sighting in his Aimpoint. The slugs Hit a little high and the second one a little right, But not bad from 100yrds with the point of aim at the top of the 8 ring and standing, (off hand).... I'm not the Best shot in the world, but Slugs in the head of the target at 100yd mark standing makes me love this gun even more!!

Here Piggy, Piggy..........

mixflip · 05-18-2010, 18:42

Some guns may need more break in than others maybe? Interfacing metals do get better in time usually. Hopefully thats all it is?

F_G · 05-18-2010, 20:04

Hopefully I get as lucky as Mixflip and Frank. Thanks for the insight guys.

frankr · 05-19-2010, 03:08

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Originally Posted by F_G

Hopefully I get as lucky as Mixflip and Frank. Thanks for the insight guys.

F_G the more you shoot the better your gun will function. The next time you take it to the range stop by Wal-Mart and for around $25.00 pick up a box of the Remington 100 shell value pack. My 930 SPX will eat them all day.

Good Luck and Stay Safe

F_G · 05-19-2010, 07:00

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Originally Posted by frankr

F_G the more you shoot the better your gun will function. The next time you take it to the range stop by Wal-Mart and for around $25.00 pick up a box of the Remington 100 shell value pack. My 930 SPX will eat them all day.

Good Luck and Stay Safe

Well, it won't be the next trip, but my first trip

. I didn't actually have my SPX yet, but I picked one up last night from a local guy supposedly NIB and it looks it. Long story short, this was a new replacement from Mossberg after his original made 4 or 5 trips back to Mossberg and still wouldn't function, he was so disenchanted he didn't want to risk another dissappointment. Oh well, his loss, my gain (I hope

). Probably won't be able to get it out until Memorial Day weekend, I'll post a range report then.

Oh yeah, the best part is I picked it up for $525.

Thanks again for all the helpful insight.

frankr · 05-19-2010, 11:00

Sounds like a great deal. Remember give it a good cleaning then a very light coat of good gun oil. Remember to clean the magazine tube.

Good Lock

ScrappyDoo · 05-19-2010, 11:12

I love mine. Like, I got the info / idea / etc from
right here on the shotgun forum of GT, stumbled upon on on Super Bowl Sunday, and it will NEVER get sold / traded / etc.

In fact I like mine so mch i am considering getting my Old Man one for his 60th in a few months. Just for kicks I may grt him a 930 and customize it somehow so we don't have matching boomsticks. It looks like there are some 930 options /
models available.

In fact I like mine so mich I want another mossberg 500/590 just on general principle.

m24shooter · 05-19-2010, 18:33

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum...930-SPX-Review

ScrappyDoo · 05-19-2010, 18:42

Now I have a far out far fetched question. Is there any such thing as a foreend foregrip/handle/post like for the front end , like AR-15's often have ? Now that would be tacticool!

m24shooter · 05-19-2010, 19:03

You could get a railed foreend and put a VFG or something like the Magpul AFG on it. I'm getting ready to do a review on this:

and you could put one on it. There will be another railed foreend available soon that I am hoping to do a review on as well that is much smaller and lower profile.

F_G · 05-19-2010, 20:59

m24shooter, your 930 looks like mine will soon. Rode hard, but well taken care of. Any updates after living with the beast for awhile?

OK first issue with mine after I got it all cleaned and lubed up. Can only get 6 shells in the magazine. 7th will go almost all the way, but just misses clearing the shell stop by maybe a 1/16 of an inch. Magazine spring seems inordinately long. Any ideas before I tear into it?

AC45ACP · 05-19-2010, 21:22

M24shooter,
Is that the bulldozer rail!?
I need one I just can't bring myself to drop
$399 for a SD shotgun

frankr · 05-20-2010, 03:38

Some owners have replaced the stock magazine follower with a safety orange S&J (No Jam) magazine follower. The only problem with using one is your reduced from 7 to 6 shells in the magazine tube. Check your magazine extension for any obstructions. I had read that someone else was having this problem and a reader responding to his post sent him a picture of about six 12 gauge 2 ¾ shells all with different lengths. I wish I could find it. Maybe M24shooter has seen it? The only time I was unable to get more than 6 was when I loaded my magazine tube with 3 inch shells and that’s the way the gun is designed. I can’t for the life of me figure out why you can on load 7 in your magazine tube. Can you post a picture of your gun? Other than that let us know how it shoots when you get to the range.

I have a question for M24shooter. On the Mossberg web site they say that all 930 auto’s that come from the factory with the magazine extension have a 7+1 capacity. All others are 4+1. If someone purchased a 930 without the magazine tube, let’s say like the Home Security model, replaced the barrel and added a 2” shell magazine tube extension how many shells would the gun hold? I’m lost.

F_G · 05-20-2010, 07:41

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Originally Posted by frankr

Some owners have replaced the stock magazine follower with a safety orange S&J (No Jam) magazine follower. The only problem with using one is your reduced from 7 to 6 shells in the magazine tube. Check your magazine extension for any obstructions. I had read that someone else was having this problem and a reader responding to his post sent him a picture of about six 12 gauge 2 ¾ shells all with different lengths. I wish I could find it. Maybe M24shooter has seen it? The only time I was unable to get more than 6 was when I loaded my magazine tube with 3 inch shells and that’s the way the gun is designed. I can’t for the life of me figure out why you can on load 7 in your magazine tube. Can you post a picture of your gun? Other than that let us know how it shoots when you get to the range.

They were all 2 3/4" shells and I even tried several different manufacturers. It almost feels as though the mag spring is just bottomed out. I took it all apart, made sure the spring was seated in the follower (it's the original steel one), cleaned the tube again and checked the extension for dents, obstructions, etc. This is supposedly the latest production run, maybe they reduced capacity to 6+1? My 870 is 6+1. While 8 rounds of 00 are nice, 7 can be pretty effective too. I'll try and call Mossberg today and see if something changed.

frankr · 05-20-2010, 11:51

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Originally Posted by F_G

They were all 2 3/4" shells and I even tried several different manufacturers. It almost feels as though the mag spring is just bottomed out. I took it all apart, made sure the spring was seated in the follower (it's the original steel one), cleaned the tube again and checked the extension for dents, obstructions, etc. This is supposedly the latest production run, maybe they reduced capacity to 6+1? My 870 is 6+1. While 8 rounds of 00 are nice, 7 can be pretty effective too. I'll try and call Mossberg today and see if something changed.

F_G I bought mine about 6 months ago and the Mossberg web site still calls for the 930 SPX to have 7+1. When you call ask them if they have ever had this problem before. For home defense I keep the chamber empty with 5 rounds of 00 buck in the magazine. But that’s not the point. It should hold 7 in the magazine tube. Can you put 7 in the magazine tube without the spring and magazine follower in? Sorry just a stupid thought. Let me know what Mossberg has to say.

F_G · 05-20-2010, 13:34

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Originally Posted by frankr

Can you put 7 in the magazine tube without the spring and magazine follower in? Sorry just a stupid thought. Let me know what Mossberg has to say.

Actually, that's not a stupid thought at all. I will take the spring out tonight and see if I can get the follower and 7 shells in, if not the follower is most likely hanging up on something and if so the spring is bottomed out. Frank, you're brilliant.

2 Hawks · 05-20-2010, 20:41

Well I just got back from the range, , had a factory replacement barrel due to the front sight not on straight. It was canted to the left. The new barrel is also canted to the left but not as much. Still using way to much rear adjustment to get it zeroed at 50 yards.
The rear sight is also high on the left from just tightening it. Going to call Mossberg tomorrow. You guys been lucky to get the straight ones..