M70 vs. WASR 10

Panzergrenadier1979 · 05-23-2010, 13:59

A buddy of mine has asked if I'd be interested in trading my WASR 10 for his M70 underfolder. Seems that he wants my WASR to be a "project" gun for him to tinker with and to add an M4 style stock - something he couldn't do with the M70.

My gut instinct is to take the trade since I've always wanted an underfolder AK and I've heard that the Yugo manufactured rifles are better made then the Romanian rifles.

Since I'm not an AK expert I was looking for some opinions regarding the M70 vs. the WASR 10.

deMontacute · 05-23-2010, 14:26

Assuming roughly equal condition, the trade is definitely in your favor. The only downside is the lack of chrome bore. Some would also say the underfolder stock is a minus, since they are not as comfortable to shoot with.

However, the M70 is much nicer gun IMO. I've owned and built many AKs: Polish, Hungarian, Yugo, Romanian... But kept only two: My Yugo Underfolder and my SAR-1.

JMHO...

sputnik767 · 05-23-2010, 14:43

I am also not a fan of the underfolder stock, and prefer my full-stock Yugo. The non-chrome bore should not be an issues. It is an American-made, brand new barrel, and I would rather have a non-chrome brand new barrel, than a shot-out WASR chrome barrel.

conpro · 05-23-2010, 14:46

Keep the wasr its a great rifle, you will be happy you did>

mboylan · 05-23-2010, 16:58

The Yugo is head and shoulders above the WASR. You're getting the best out of the trade.

mikeyU · 05-23-2010, 17:09

I would get an under folder out of this deal if I were you.

dakotasdad · 05-24-2010, 19:46

I've had both, got rid of both. A little history...

I let the WASR go in a moment of weakness. It was a pre-ban so I "needed" cooler features. The M70AB2 I dumped because it would intermittently become a single shot. Yes the gas port was well cleaned but I didn't have the time nor energy to dick with it so away it went.

Apples to apples the Yugo was definitely a much nicer finished rifle. Trading for the Yugo isn't a bad choice as long as it runs.

Anthony

M1A Shooter · 05-24-2010, 20:27

i had a sar1 and regret selling it sometimes but i never really gave it a chance or was expecting too much from it. i have always wanted to get an underfolder for its ability to be very compact.

id do the trade.

peaceful_guy · 05-24-2010, 23:06

I tried the M70, it is solid but takes some getting used to as it feels less maneuverable than you would think because of the weight.

Ermac · 05-25-2010, 00:22

I think I would get the WASR because it has the best chance of not having issues.

deMontacute · 05-25-2010, 06:35

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Originally Posted by Ermac

I think I would get the WASR because it has the best chance of not having issues.

Yugos are much better put together than WASRs, and are less likely than a WASR to have issues. Occasionally you see one with a screwy gasblock, but that is still less common than a WASR with issues.

There is a reason why Romanian AKs are CONSISTENTLY placed at the very bottom of the barrel: WASRs....

Jmzzl · 05-25-2010, 14:43

I'd ask to see if you could shoot it first. Tell him you might be interested but wanted to give it a test run first. WASRs generally are at the bottom of the barrel, but will almost always go bang. You can fix them up, customize, refinish, stain wood, etc, to make it look nicer. Thats what I did and I couldn't be happier. I may even get another.

***Glockdude1*** · 05-25-2010, 15:02

Get the Yugo.

Panzergrenadier1979 · 05-25-2010, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Glockdude1

Get the Yugo.

You bastage!

I think you might have made my decision for me...

***Glockdude1*** · 05-26-2010, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

You bastage!

I think you might have made my decision for me...

Resistence is futile............

Ermac · 05-26-2010, 14:57

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Originally Posted by deMontacute

Yugos are much better put together than WASRs, and are less likely than a WASR to have issues. Occasionally you see one with a screwy gasblock, but that is still less common than a WASR with issues.

There is a reason why Romanian AKs are CONSISTENTLY placed at the very bottom of the barrel: WASRs....

I use to to have both and the Century Yugo AK had serious functioning issues where the Romanian RPK didn't. I put more faith in the Romanians to build an AK then Century.

deMontacute · 05-26-2010, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Ermac

I use to to have both and the Century Yugo AK had serious functioning issues where the Romanian RPK didn't. I put more faith in the Romanians to build an AK then Century.

Century doesn't build the Yugos. They farm the work out to various builders...

Aceman · 05-26-2010, 19:34

I am stunned at some of the comments here...

First of all, you have a perfectly good WASR. A known entity. Consider that for a moment.

Second of all, and I have to go functionalist here on the Yugo:
+ Underfolder
- Underfolder is not the greatest shooting stock
+ Sturdy, but what AK isn't?
- Heavy, but what AK isn't?

As for all of the better worse stuff - All in all if the Yugo is a shooter, I'd take it. But then again, I wouldn't give up my WASR.

Take a test run. It's got a little more value in the long run, and perhaps some extra accuracy. Perhaps.

***sdsnet*** · 05-26-2010, 19:46

Underfolder all the way. The folding stock on my M70 is very solid and works fine.

Jmzzl · 05-26-2010, 19:47

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Originally Posted by Aceman

I am stunned at some of the comments here...

First of all, you have a perfectly good WASR. A known entity. Consider that for a moment.

Second of all, and I have to go functionalist here on the Yugo:
+ Underfolder
- Underfolder is not the greatest shooting stock
+ Sturdy, but what AK isn't?
- Heavy, but what AK isn't?

As for all of the better worse stuff - All in all if the Yugo is a shooter, I'd take it. But then again, I wouldn't give up my WASR.

Take a test run. It's got a little more value in the long run, and perhaps some extra accuracy. Perhaps.

Word. The underfolder stock may not be for you, which is why you should give it a test run. I personally don't care for it. I love my WASR.

engineer151515 · 05-26-2010, 19:51

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TacticalBling · 05-27-2010, 05:47

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Originally Posted by deMontacute

Yugos are much better put together than WASRs, and are less likely than a WASR to have issues. Occasionally you see one with a screwy gasblock, but that is still less common than a WASR with issues.

There is a reason why Romanian AKs are CONSISTENTLY placed at the very bottom of the barrel: WASRs....

Maybe so, but SAR-1s, 2, and 3s are original Romanian rifles, and they're rated pretty well for 'rough and ready' AKs.

Don't forget that WASRs are a bunch of modded single-stack rifles that Century chopped a little on, and restored them to double-stack. In other words, the stuff that didn't sell the first time around.