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Old 06-21-2010, 20:44   #1
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Velocities of less-expensive Walmart defensive loads - .40 S&W

Walmart bargain-priced defensive ammunition, .40 S&W caliber, velocity results.

Ammunition was fired in an unmodified Glock model 22 with a 4.5-inch barrel.

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Remington UMC 100 round Value Pack (two 50-round trays, double-stacked in one

box), 180 grain JHP, box code L40SW2B:

Shot # - velocity
1 - 987 FPS
2 - 983
3 - 992
4 - 982
5 - 998
6 - 986
7 - 980
8 - 990
9 - 999
10 - 975

Average velocity - 987 FPS
389 Ft/Lbs kinetic energy

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Winchester USA Personal Protection .40 S&W 180 grain JHP, box code USA40JHP:

1 - 988 FPS
2 - 1008
3 - 1002
4 - 995
5 - 1002
6 - 990
7 - 995
8 - 975
9 - 988
10 - 997

Average velocity - 994 FPS
395 Ft/Lbs kinetic energy

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Federal Ammunition .40 S&W 135 grain JHP, box code XM40HA:

1 - 1232
2 - 1222
3 - 1239
4 - 1272
5 - 1248
6 - 1242
7 - 1232
8 - 1282
9 - 1249
10 - 1253

Average velocity - 1247 FPS
466 Ft/Lbs kinetic energy


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Old 06-21-2010, 20:58   #2
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looks like the federal ammo was the best in this test.
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Old 06-21-2010, 21:08   #3
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I have shot several boxes of the federal stuff and i am happy with it, i dont think wm will have it around very long from what i read though...
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Fastest and most energetic, but also the widest velocity variation.
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Old 06-21-2010, 21:46   #5
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Fastest and most energetic, but also the widest velocity variation.


yes, more of the good gov. contract over run stuff.

LMAO!
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:43   #6
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Those are the fastest numbers I've seen for the Federal load. At 1220-1250 fps I'll take that. Even though the Cor-Bon stuff is spec'd at 1325fps, seems like more people chrono the load at 1250-1280fps. Just marginally faster than this Federal load, but the Federal load uses a better bullet in the HST design.
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:44   #7
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Has anyone tested the WWB and UMC stuff for penetration/expansion? The velocity numbers look decent.
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:28   #8
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The Federal ammo was 135 gr. and the others 180 gr. ammo. That's why Remington and WWB were slower fps.
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Old 08-27-2010, 13:07   #9
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The few tests I've seen of the WWB stuff were not good expansions.

SD ammo is no place to scrimp. It's not like you have to shoot thousands of rounds of it.

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Old 08-27-2010, 13:37   #10
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The few tests I've seen of the WWB stuff were not good expansions.

SD ammo is no place to scrimp. It's not like you have to shoot thousands of rounds of it.
I agree.

If you really need a good defensive load on the cheap though, that Federal stuff is the best you are going to get.
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I agree.

If you really need a good defensive load on the cheap though, that Federal stuff is the best you are going to get.
I don't think the Federal load is really cheap. It is an HST bullet and still $23 a box. That's roughly the same as Tactical HST online.
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Old 08-27-2010, 20:19   #12
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The penetration of the federal round is around 11" if im not mistaken. I havent seen any tests of the wwb 180gr for penetration except one and if i remember right the pen. was like 20" and no expansion, if anyone has a link to wwb or remington pen. test throw it up please. Thnks for that post DJ NINER, was wondering about vel. of the wwb. I have a few boxes of both and a couple boxes of federal 180 HST'S which i prefer.
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Old 08-27-2010, 20:42   #13
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Anyone know if the WWB in .40SW uses the uncolored SilverTip bullets like the 9mm?

Also, I was suprised to see the velocity on the Federal. Not trying to make a 9mm vs .40 discussion, but the 9mm can quite easily push a bullet 8 grains lighter at the same velocity. I understand that the .40 wasnt up to full potential, just thought it was interesting.
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Anyone know if the WWB in .40SW uses the uncolored SilverTip bullets like the 9mm?

Also, I was suprised to see the velocity on the Federal. Not trying to make a 9mm vs .40 discussion, but the 9mm can quite easily push a bullet 8 grains lighter at the same velocity. I understand that the .40 wasnt up to full potential, just thought it was interesting.
From what I've seen, yes. The WWB bullet is the same as the silver tip minus the silver.
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Anyone know if the WWB in .40SW uses the uncolored SilverTip bullets like the 9mm?

Also, I was suprised to see the velocity on the Federal. Not trying to make a 9mm vs .40 discussion, but the 9mm can quite easily push a bullet 8 grains lighter at the same velocity. I understand that the .40 wasnt up to full potential, just thought it was interesting.
Most 124+P loads will run around around 1200fps. Not much lighter or slower than the 40 round. The 40 round still has a slight edge in weight and velocity, but the 9mm will have better sd. I don't think I'd hesitate to use the federal load in my G23. If Federal loaded this round to 1275 fps I think they'd have a winner on their hands if they could keep penetration at 10+ inches.
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Most 124+P loads will run around around 1200fps. Not much lighter or slower than the 40 round. The 40 round still has a slight edge in weight and velocity, but the 9mm will have better sd. I don't think I'd hesitate to use the federal load in my G23. If Federal loaded this round to 1275 fps I think they'd have a winner on their hands if they could keep penetration at 10+ inches.
IIRC the 127 Ranger Load runs just over 1250 from a Glock 19. But I agree, most 124 +P do typically run in the low 1200s.

I am considering getting a G23 so this is pretty interesting to me.
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