[Tomac]

Originally Posted by 12131

Gotta love it when folks generalize things, based on their "experience".
I personally couldn't care less that they come across as so knowledgeable. I just know that my Micros work just fine, and that's good enough for me.

Agreed. I've used Eotech's (and Aimpoints) for years and I haven't had any problems w/any of them.
Tomac

[BlackPaladin]

My comp M4 has been the best optic I have ever owned PERIOD. I like the Eotech 512 I have on another rifle just fine, but the Comp will last long after the 512.

[crazypilot]

Some good videos regarding the Aimpoint.
http://www.downrange.tv/show2/

As for the EoTech, my friends POF rifle fell on the floor while leaning on the safe and the hood manage to bend. Not very durable in my opinion.

[MADBMW]

Originally Posted by crazypilot

Some good videos regarding the Aimpoint.
http://www.downrange.tv/show2/

As for the EoTech, my friends POF rifle fell on the floor while leaning on the safe and the hood manage to bend. Not very durable in my opinion.

+1 my point exactally. I use both, and the Aimpoint is far superior (in my opinion for you sensitive types).

[KalashniKEV]

Originally Posted by crazymoose

When's the last time the Army issued a warning to discontinue the use of Aimpoints?

I assume you're talking about the SOPMOD 553? Yeah, the initial delivery of that contract didn't work out so well.

I'll counter with this: When's the last time you've seen anyone in ODA run an M-68?

Very, very few do...

Originally Posted by 12131

Gotta love it when folks generalize things, based on their "experience".

Quotes. How cute.

If someone elses experience has lead them to a different conclusion, then I'd be happy to evaluate their experience and weigh it against my own. If they've got more sand in their boots then let them be heard...

In the big picture, EOTech/Aimpoint is just like anything else- Ford/Chevy, McDonalds/BK, M870/M500 Coke/Pepsi...

The EOTech, to me, is a superior optic because it's more durable, more precise, faster on target, and has no mount to fail or internal space to fog.

In relation to the OPs topic, the T1 works great in the role I described in my original post. Taking the T1 and putting it in the skyscraper mount and expecting it to deliver the same performance as a full size optic is putting fashion before function.

You could run a G26 with G17 mags and try to get the same performace as a full size service pistol. You might even best a few other folks out there, but you're handicapping yourself.

[Glocks&Ducs]

Originally Posted by KalashniKEV

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You could run a G26 with G17 mags and try to get the same performace as a full size service pistol. You might even best a few other folks out there, but you're handicapping yourself.

Actually, most people that have the opportunity to shoot the two side by side will tell you that they shoot the G26 better. Besides, I wasn't aware a larger magazine capacity increased the performance of any gun.

[Jer]

Originally Posted by Glocks&Ducs

Actually, most people that have the opportunity to shoot the two side by side will tell you that they shoot the G26 better. Besides, I wasn't aware a larger magazine capacity increased the performance of any gun.

Most? Where do you get your information? I own several of both and would NEVER reach for a 26 for a competition. Ever. Nor do I personally know anyone who would. For the record, a longer loaded magazine adds low center of gravity weight which helps with recoil control for rapid succession shots on target. Other than those items your information seems spot on. Lulz.

[Glocks&Ducs]

Originally Posted by Jer

Most? Where do you get your information? I own several of both and would NEVER reach for a 26 for a competition. Ever. Nor do I personally know anyone who would. For the record, a longer loaded magazine adds low center of gravity weight which helps with recoil control for rapid succession shots on target. Other than those items your information seems spot on. Lulz.

I have been on this board for several years, and you frequently see people ask why they shoot better with their sub than they do their larger version Glock. I have also let friends shoot my Glocks side by side, and they make the same comment. I sold my G26 to a friend and he came back telling how much better he can shoot it than his G23. I agree that there is a distance at which the longer gun might have an advantage. But at shorter distances, probably up to about 25 yards, the G26 will shoot just as well as the G17. If not better, as many have already pointed out. I believe the smaller grip, which actually forces one to hold the gun more securely has much to do with the better accuracy, the lighter weight has much to do with the quick pointability, and the nested recoil system has much to do with the excellent follow up shot ability of the G26. Probably much more so than a longer magazine does.

Besides that, aren't you only allowed to load so many round into a magazine for competition anyway? Putting a G17 magazine loaded with ten rounds is hardly going to lower the center of gravity over a G26 mag with 10 round in it. It isn't like the rounds are all falling to the bottom of the G17 magazine. Matter of fact, those rounds are taking up the exact same space as they would with the G26 mag. I don't see how it would effect CG at all.

[KalashniKEV]

The G26 is the best competition auto.
The Aimpoint T1 is the best combat optic.

Originally Posted by Jer

Where do you get your information? I own several of both and would NEVER reach for a 26 for a competition. Ever.

I could not have paid this gentleman to make a more ridiculous statement. It just illustrates how people can make and actually believe nonsensical statements so long as 1) they read it on the interwebz 2) it is reapeated over and over again 3) the kool kidz krew supports it.

Originally Posted by Glocks&Ducs

Besides, I wasn't aware a larger magazine capacity increased the performance of any gun.

Let me make you aware then- more rounds is considered "better performance" when you lock slide and "need a few more."

[Glocks&Ducs]

Originally Posted by KalashniKEV

The G26 is the best competition auto.
The Aimpoint T1 is the best combat optic.



I could not have paid this gentleman to make a more ridiculous statement. It just illustrates how people can make and actually believe nonsensical statements so long as 1) they read it on the interwebz 2) it is reapeated over and over again 3) the kool kidz krew supports it.



Let me make you aware then- more rounds is considered "better performance" when you lock slide and "need a few more."

Nobody said the G26 is the best competition auto. It was just pointed out that your statement was quite ridiculous in itself.

Let me enlighten some of your dim wit. More rounds is not better performance. Especially not in the context you used and especially not in the case of a magazine fed semi-auto where a quick swap of a magazine means you are ready to go with more rounds. It isn't like it is a disposable camera, and once you are out of film, you are just out and that is it.

[lawman800]

Originally Posted by Glocks&Ducs

Actually, most people that have the opportunity to shoot the two side by side will tell you that they shoot the G26 better. Besides, I wasn't aware a larger magazine capacity increased the performance of any gun.

I have the opportunity to shoot my G34 and G26 side by side everytime we go for quals. I currently use a G17 magazine in the G26 when I qual.

I noticed that when I used the G26 magazine with the Pearce grip or the G19 magazine with the Ajax sleeve, I can shoot the G26 as well or better than when I shot a G21. However, with the G17 magazine and no adapter, my fingers don't get to have a solid grip on the bottom of the G26 due to the gap on the pinky finger.

I can say in my experience, the G26 is a great shooter and I shoot it as well as any Glock if I use the right magazine or a larger magazine with an adapter. Otherwise, for me, the G26 does not shoot better with a larger magazine.

[MADBMW]

Well, this thread has offically gone full retard.

[lawman800]

Not yet, not until someone pulls the 10mm card.

[KalashniKEV]

Originally Posted by MADBMW

Well, this thread has offically gone full retard.

I know... and I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for my part in that.

To get things back on track, and to answer the OP's original question:

"Why all the T-1's for sale?"

The answer is:

"Because they suck"




Plus, once everybody on the block owned one they were no longer prime p1mp gear and the money was deemed better allocated towards new patches for their velcro hats.

[lawman800]

I am sure the T-1 is a good sight but I would not use the skyscraper mounts. ****** has the lo-profile flat top mount which looks way better and if I had to get one, I would use that mount. Then again, I have my EOTech and Trijicon... and they work fine.

[MADBMW]

Originally Posted by KalashniKEV

I know... and I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for my part in that.

To get things back on track, and to answer the OP's original question:

"Why all the T-1's for sale?"

The answer is:

"Because they suck"




Plus, once everybody on the block owned one they were no longer prime p1mp gear and the money was deemed better allocated towards new patches for their velcro hats.

Or patches for the TAD Gear hoodies.

[lawman800]

Where can I get some BDU shirts with the velcro patches on the sleeves and chest? I have too many patches and not enough places to put them.

[KalashniKEV]

Originally Posted by lawman800

Where can I get some BDU shirts with the velcro patches on the sleeves and chest? I have too many patches and not enough places to put them.

Just go to the sewing aisle at Walmart and tell the old lady, "EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW I'M AN INFIDEL!!!"

[Hoser]

Originally Posted by lawman800

I am sure the T-1 is a good sight but I would not use the skyscraper mounts. ****** has the lo-profile flat top mount which looks way better and if I had to get one, I would use that mount.

Because it "looks" better? Good grief.

Good luck getting a decent cheek weld with a non skyscraper mount.

[KalashniKEV]

Originally Posted by Hozer

Because it "looks" better? Good grief.

Good luck getting a decent cheek weld with a non skyscraper mount.

You could always go with a full size optic... but that might be too tough, and too functional for most working class Ninjas.

Does anyone else think "Tactical Life" is a ridiculous name for a magazine?

[KalashniKEV]

Just to add... THIS is a great application for the T-1...

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[Seraph]

I think most people who choose the T1/H1 optic do so because they're looking to shave a couple of ounces, and keep the total weight of their carbines down (though I have no doubt at all that some do it purely for ninja points). Personally, my approach would tend toward a more robust full size optic, like the Aimpoint M4, because, as KEV said very well, "**** happens."

[lawman800]

Originally Posted by Hozer

Because it "looks" better? Good grief.

Good luck getting a decent cheek weld with a non skyscraper mount.

Yes, because it looks better. I already know that both the low profile mount and the skyscraper mount are solid pieces so it comes down to aesthetics and personal preference. Either one will do fine, but I don't like the skyscraper mount look with the little T-1/H-1 sticking up on top.

[lawman800]

Originally Posted by KalashniKEV

Just go to the sewing aisle at Walmart and tell the old lady, "EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW I'M AN INFIDEL!!!"

Not just any type of infidel, but the pork eating crusader type of infidel!

[KalashniKEV]

Originally Posted by Seraph

I think most people who choose the T1/H1 optic do so because they're looking to shave a couple of ounces,

The ounces are negligible... and you usually see a bunch of other extraneous junk hanging off the rest of the rails too. Make no mistake why they're atop that skyscraper thing:

Little Optic = BIG PIMPIN'

Until the pimp juice wore off and everybody had one... now they're up for sale...

Originally Posted by lawman800

Not just any type of infidel, but the pork eating crusader type of infidel!

No doubt ready to ride against the heathen savage with an unmatched sense of duty and patriotism... as soon as his country calls upon him... individually...