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Old 07-17-2010, 12:03   #1
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Great grandfather's 1909 Remington pump 22 rifle

My father just gave me the Remington pump 22 rifle that my great grandfather bought in 1909 at a hardware store he worked for in Colorado. My father used it alot when he was a kid. It has not been shot in about 30 years but the action functions correctly. The last few times he used it he said it would not chamber about 2 out of 5 or so rounds properly. He believes the extractor is worn. It may not be worth much to some but it means a lot to me because of the family history. I think I will take it to a gunsmith and have it checked out for safety's sake. My father said someone told him the barrel was in bad shape and it wasn't worth fixing but I plan to check it out. At minimum I will make a wall mount so I can enjoy it there. It is an octogonal barrel.

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Old 07-17-2010, 12:31   #2
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That is quite nice. I would slather the exterior metal with a good lubricant like ProLink, swab the barrel, and give it a go with standard velocity rounds. A good cleaning and lube could improve ejection.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:41   #3
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A classic. A much later model Remington pump 22 was the first gun (other than bb) I got as a kid when I was learning to shoot.
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Old 07-17-2010, 14:34   #4
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Nice, it's a beautiful gun. Hope the gunsmith gives it a thumbs up without a lot of work. Is that chambered for the .22 Long or the .22 LR?
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Old 07-17-2010, 16:06   #5
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Very cool rifle.

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Old 07-17-2010, 16:34   #6
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Check the barrel to see if it is marked. I have an old Remington that was my dads that also has an octagonal barrel. It is marked 22 Long. 22 Long and 22 Long Rifle are not the same round.

Usually the .22 rounds that you see on the shelf are .22 Long Rifle (or possibly .22 short). CCI still makes .22 Long.

Keep the gun in the family and be careful if you clean the gun. You don't want to remove the patina and what is left of the original finish.
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Thanks guys. I will check the long versus long rifle on the barrel and ask my father about it. I'll post some pics after a very careful cleaning.
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Old 07-17-2010, 18:18   #8
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The barrel says 22 short, long, or long rifle.
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Thanks guys. I will check the long versus long rifle on the barrel and ask my father about it. I'll post some pics after a very careful cleaning.
Cool, that's a great rifle, I love the pics. If you could get a nice shot of the front grip I'd appreciate it. Looks like some outstanding workmanship given they were doing it over 100 years ago.

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The barrel says 22 short, long, or long rifle.
Nice, I've never worked with a .22 that old so I was kind of curious if those rounds were even around. I did a little search and according to Wikipedia, the .22 long rifle dates to 1887.
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My father used it alot when he was a kid. It has not been shot in about 30 years but the action functions correctly. The last few times he used it he said it would not chamber about 2 out of 5 or so rounds properly. He believes the extractor is worn.






You might want to check the chamber for leading. I notice on my .357 that if I shoot a bunch of .38 special wadcutters that it is often difficult to chamber .357 rounds until after I clean the gun.
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Old 07-18-2010, 13:48   #11
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I will post a picture of the front grip shortly.
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I will post a picture of the front grip shortly.
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Old 07-18-2010, 14:10   #13
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A friend inherited a model 12 from his Granddad. His GD attended the U. of Wyoming on a land grant scholarship back in 1914. Coming from a poor famly he showed up at school with his horse, gun, bedroll, change of clothes, and a $5 gold piece. Schooling/books were provided but he had to fend for himself otherwise. Until finding work he lived on the outskirts of Laramie in a makeshift lean-to feeding himself on sage hens and cottontail rabbits. Things got better over the years and he graduated with honors in Agricultural Science. Eventually ended up with a PhD years later.

The gun doesn't have a lick of bluing left but the wood's sound. Mechanically in excellent condition although the bore has a lot of pitting from blackpowder .22 rounds. Even with that it's a solid shooter that's plenty accurate. My friend's used it for years on small game and plinking with his kids and grandkids.
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Old 07-18-2010, 17:02   #14
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With that much history i'd pay to get it safe & shootable, but thats just me.
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Old 07-20-2010, 19:41   #15
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Remington Model 12, one of the greatest .22 rifles ever. Introduced to counter the Winchester 1906, a small "gallery" pump similar in design. I prefer the 12, with it's internal hammer. The ultimate plinker, light, easy to carry all day, accurate and reliable.
By far my favorite .22 that I own.

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Old 07-20-2010, 20:20   #16
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When I was a kid my best friend had one, that is to say his dad did, and we could shoot it if we'd buy the ammo. .22 shorts were under 1$ a box, (59c I believe) so we shot those mostly.. "Death to rabbits" was our bloodcurdleing battle cry..

Please make it shootable, and keep it in service. People speak of sentimental value, but with few exceptions old gun owners with old useful guns want them to have a job. Lots of times gifts and bequests are for that exact reason, the old guns will have a home and a purpose.

So don't get TOO wrapped up in sentiment or think that wallhanger is 'good enough'..

heck, if someone inherited YOUR guns, would you want them restored and used, or just looked at?
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:45   #17
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You may be surprized what a complete cleaning would do for that old beauty. De-lead the barrel and chamber and get the funk out of the action and it probably will shoot like a new gun.
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Old 07-21-2010, 07:03   #18
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A careful cleaning will be one of the first things I do this weekend. My father took it to a gunsmith many years ago and he told him to just replace it. The smith wasn't looking at the rifle for what it is, a family heirloom and historical firearm. My dad knows how I like to collect old things from our family so he gave it to me.

I'm going to call my friends over at Collector's firearms today and see about getting it checked out. My dad said the last time it was shot the problem was it wasn't chambering the new cartridge every few tries. I'm looking forward to shooting it.
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Run it wet for a while to loosen any gunk in the action then clean and lube it properly. My old Rem semi-auto likes a good bit of lubrication.

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Very nice heirloom. All things .22lr have a place in my heart, but I really like the pumps. One of my fondest memories of shooting was going to the swat range and shooting a Taurus version of that.

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