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Old 07-22-2010, 23:21   #1
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Really?

I have seen a number of examples of Chuck Rogers' work on this forum, and respect and admire it greatly. Ok, I want one, really really bad. But somebody please tell me, is it really worth $7,000? I saw this one on Gunbroker:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=179988496
Can those of you in the know tell me if this is for real what one of Rogers' pistols would go for? Just curious.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:17   #2
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If it weren't road-pizza green, that would be a nice pistol.

Worth the asking price?

That depends on how bad you want a Rogers original, I guess.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:37   #3
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If it weren't road-pizza green, that would be a nice pistol.

Worth the asking price?

That depends on how bad you want a Rogers original, I guess.
Road-pizza green why I outta get my brick out, that pistol is DAMN purdy
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:15   #4
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Custom guns are worth what people will pay for them.

I have a new Morris Tactical Elite on order for the same price. Of course, that's a new gun, but its still $7K.

I won't spend that much on a 1911 again. For me, its one and done for that price. However, when it comes to custom guns, the sky is really the limit.
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Old 07-23-2010, 06:50   #5
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OMGosh... did he charge $327 to replace the front sight and shoot this guy's gun a bit???

I like commanders, but the color is terrible and I prefer checkering to all the cool new crap that people are coming up with...
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:12   #6
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Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but: I bet a pistol from Wilson Combat will shoot just as good for half the price.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:47   #7
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Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but: I bet a pistol from Wilson Combat will shoot just as good for half the price.
I've never shot one of his guns but I would bet a Wilson wouldn't compare for a second there's a reason Chuck's work cost that much I believe he's got a 6 or 7 year back log of work and isn't excepting anymore orders.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:49   #8
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As Brian said they are worth exactly what someone is willing to pay. Seeing Chuck isn't taking new orders on full builds there must be quite a few people that think they are worth the asking price. As with selling anything used the asking price all depends on how soon you need the money. It might take six months to get $7K for that pistol but eventually someone will come along that has to have it.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:10   #9
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There is a reason why his guns command so high of a price. People are willing to pay for that kind of quality.
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a Wilson wouldn't compare for a second
I believe you, but my mind can't comprehend that level of... whatever it is...
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:37   #11
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I am having some work done by Chuck right now. He will not accept any work that requires fitting . He is only doing cosmetic work. Like others have said he is backlogged on builds.
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I can understand why it costs so much, but it really is ridiculous, IMO.

That gun is about as purdy as a Glock...
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:26   #13
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Is it worth 7 K? To me, no. However that is relative to what the buyer wants and believes. Only Obama has the right to tell you what is proper for your hard earned dollars.
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I can understand why it costs so much, but it really is ridiculous, IMO.

That gun is about as purdy as a Glock...
I personally like the lines of it... it just needs a quick coat of rustoleum textured... LOVE that stuff...
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:34   #15
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Is a custom Chuck 1911 worth $7k? That's up to you. Personally, having him give my Kimber some lovin' and more to come, I consider myself lucky to have him even lay hands on it.

Is this car worth (a starting price of) $1.7 mil? Again, that's up to you.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:36   #16
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Is a custom Chuck 1911 worth $7k? That's up to you. Personally, having him give my Kimber some lovin' and more to come, I consider myself lucky to have him even lay hands on it.

Is this car worth (a starting price of) $1.7 mil? Again, that's up to you.
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Do you think I can fit two baby seats in the back?
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Old 07-23-2010, 13:16   #18
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WHAT ????? 1.7 Mil and no back seat ?!!!!!!
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Old 07-23-2010, 13:52   #19
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I've never shot one of his guns but I would bet a Wilson wouldn't compare for a second there's a reason Chuck's work cost that much I believe he's got a 6 or 7 year back log of work and isn't excepting anymore orders.

Looking at some of his guns, they are truly fantastic. My point is that you are paying for the artistry and fit/finish, not functionality. I don't believe for a second that a top of the line Wilson Combat will not shoot as well as one of Chuck's guns. I can think of a few reasons why the cost is so high for one of his guns, none of which involve accuracy. Take a look at his website. You'll see many examples of hours and hours of machine work, hand tooling, and one of a kind modifications. What you won't see is a claim for the most accurate 1911's in the world.
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Looking at some of his guns, they are truly fantastic. My point is that you are paying for the artistry and fit/finish, not functionality. I don't believe for a second that a top of the line Wilson Combat will not shoot as well as one of Chuck's guns. I can think of a few reasons why the cost is so high for one of his guns, none of which involve accuracy. Take a look at his website. You'll see many examples of hours and hours of machine work, hand tooling, and one of a kind modifications. What you won't see is a claim for the most accurate 1911's in the world.
You don't find that claim from Wilson Combat either and their super grades cost $4,475.00 I'm pretty confident that Chucks gun will out shoot the Wilson's in accuracy but that's just my opinion maybe Chuck will come give his.
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You don't find that claim from Wilson Combat either and their super grades cost $4,475.00 I'm pretty confident that Chucks gun will out shoot the Wilson's in accuracy but that's just my opinion maybe Chuck will come give his.

That's one of the reasons he charges more than $7000 for a handgun: he can. Apparently there are those who are firm believers that his 1911's are more accurate than anybody elses, with no emperical (or even anecdotal) evidence to support thier beliefs. If people believe your product is the best of its type bar none, you can charge whatever you want and people will pay it. I can walk into my local gun store and pick a Wilson Combat off the shelf and take it home (a local store actually has a very nice collection in thier display case), and I would probably never be able to shoot well enough to be more accurate than the pistol. That being said, it's still an off the shelf gun. The Chuck Rogers guns are one-of-a-kind hand built works of art. That's what adds the extra $3000, not the alleged increase in accuracy, IMHO.
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That's one of the reasons he charges more than $7000 for a handgun: he can. Apparently there are those who are firm believers that his 1911's are more accurate than anybody elses, with no emperical (or even anecdotal) evidence to support thier beliefs. If people believe your product is the best of its type bar none, you can charge whatever you want and people will pay it. I can walk into my local gun store and pick a Wilson Combat off the shelf and take it home (a local store actually has a very nice collection in thier display case), and I would probably never be able to shoot well enough to be more accurate than the pistol. That being said, it's still an off the shelf gun. The Chuck Rogers guns are one-of-a-kind hand built works of art. That's what adds the extra $3000, not the alleged increase in accuracy, IMHO.
I agree you're paying for the one of a kind piece of art the is as accurate and reliable as the best of them.

I do believe you are getting something more for your money they aren't equals on any level for someone who wants the best he is probably it. I can't afford his gun's but I would love to own one someday.
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Is a M3 worth $20k more than a 335i? Both are fantastic cars, but is 1.0 sec faster 0-60 and exclusivity worth it? That depends on the end user and the size of their bank account.

You can make this argument for just about anything.

Seiko vs Omega watches
Polk vs Bower & Wilkins speakers
Old Navy vs Lacoste polos
Etc, etc, etc...

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