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Old 08-10-2010, 18:13   #1
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Is It Wrong To Not Have A 7.62 AK?

After much debate on a $1000 budget, I'm going with an AK instead of an AR. A local shop has the Arsenals in stock.

Since I was looking at 5.56 AR's, what are the general thoughts on AK's in other than 7.62?
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Old 08-10-2010, 18:20   #2
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A AK in 5.45x39 is nice.

Very light recoil, accurate, price of ammo is not bad at all.

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Old 08-10-2010, 19:05   #3
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A AK in 5.45x39 is nice.

Very light recoil, accurate, price of ammo is not bad at all.

+1 My next AK will be in 545
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Old 08-10-2010, 20:07   #4
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Well I CAN'T have one in 7.62 and yes I think that's wrong. I am eyeballing a 5.45 hard right now. If I go with a "gopher round" I'd rather have the Russian one. 7N6 is a steal right now!
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Old 08-10-2010, 20:34   #5
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Don't get me wrong - Arsenals are great AKs; however you can save yourself a LOT of money by buying a stock Russian Saiga for around $350 or so (in any caliber you choose - 7.62x39, 7.63x51 (i.e., .308), 5.56 or 5.45) and do the conversion yourself. It's amazingly easy to do, and you'll end up with a Russian-made AK finished just the way you like it. You can pick the stock, rail, grips, etc., any way you like it. You can have a very nice AK for around $500 to $550, depending on how you want to dress it up. Hope this helps -
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Old 08-10-2010, 20:36   #6
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I failed to mention there is some great "how-to" guides on the web about converting Saigas. You may want to start with the Saiga 12 forum. There's a lot of great folks on that forum who are very helpful. But trust me when I say it's easier to do than you may expect. Please let us know what you decide, and be sure to post some pics!
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Old 08-11-2010, 15:45   #7
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^+1 to that. Isn't an Arsenal a converted Saiga dressed up all pretty? I've seen some of these well known AK builders selling AKs for $1,200 which is down right offensive. Give me 2 converted Saigas and a case of ammo for that kind of scratch.
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Old 08-11-2010, 17:19   #8
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Don't know if Restless wants to go the conversion route - but I can't argue there.

And yes I DO think it is wrong to not own a 7.62 AK - however, if you are running lean, as in only one rifle, you need to make the call on SHTF ammo for yourself.

And 5.45, while cheap, does have an availability issue. However, an S&W M&P15 in 5.45 isn't too expensive, and you can get a 5.56 when you want/can afford.
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Old 08-11-2010, 17:44   #9
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Restless-Are the Arsenals at Larry's ? What's the price ? Thanks
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Restless-Are the Arsenals at Larry's ? What's the price ? Thanks
Won't know til' tomorrow afternoon. I want to go in with an open mind, and if I can't decide, I won't buy. I'll let you know, ok?
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Old 08-11-2010, 18:28   #11
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I do have a very nice .223 AK for sale here...
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Old 08-11-2010, 19:08   #12
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After much debate on a $1000 budget, I'm going with an AK instead of an AR. A local shop has the Arsenals in stock.

Since I was looking at 5.56 AR's, what are the general thoughts on AK's in other than 7.62?
Why don't you want one in 7.62 ?

I would go with 5.45 over 5.56. I have no desire to own a 5.56 AK. My next one will more than likely be in 5.45.
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Old 08-11-2010, 19:15   #13
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Well I CAN'T have one in 7.62 and yes I think that's wrong. I am eyeballing a 5.45 hard right now. If I go with a "gopher round" I'd rather have the Russian one. 7N6 is a steal right now!
What ?! Why not ?
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Old 08-11-2010, 19:44   #14
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What ?! Why not ?

CT has a ban on 7.62 AK types.
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Old 08-11-2010, 22:11   #15
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I love my 5.45 saiga. It produces 14" groups at 500 yards.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:16   #16
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The only reason I don't have 5.45 AK is because when CA ban was enacted 5.45 was just starting to trickle into the US. No spare mags or even ammo was available. SAR was pretty much the only game in town.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:46   #17
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Chuck Pullen- Yes, Larry's carries Arsenal Ak's. I saw a couple of SLR-107CR's in there the other day.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:51   #18
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Chuck Pullen- Yes, Larry's carries Arsenal Ak's. I saw a couple of SLR-107CR's in there the other day.
You don't recall pricing, do you???
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Old 08-12-2010, 15:30   #19
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After much debate on a $1000 budget, I'm going with an AK instead of an AR. A local shop has the Arsenals in stock.

Since I was looking at 5.56 AR's, what are the general thoughts on AK's in other than 7.62?
I had that decision and actually decided on the 5.45 AK74 INSTEAD of the AK47..I just like the added accuracy and light shooting(less recoil...not so important to me honestly but my kid also likes to shoot and is recoil shy) so I could have gotten the 47 or the 74 both were only $20-30 difference in price...but I went with the 74...unless the ammo absolutely dries up or it actually gets MORE expensive than 7.62X39 I wont probably ever have a 47
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Old 08-12-2010, 16:30   #20
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I love my 5.45 saiga. It produces 14" groups at 500 yards.
I saw those pics... Very impressive. I wonder if that bullet would just bounce off a person at that range.

I'm currently reading up on 5.45x39mm.

What have you guys shot with it??? I mean hard objects, phone books, animals, etc. Any ballistic tesing links around? THANKS!
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