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09-07-2010, 20:25
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Switched to the 40, now what?
Ok after reading everything and asking everybody heres advice I switched to the 40, picked up a new RTF2 G22 today. So I am thinking about starting with the 3.5gr Titegroup and 180 bullet. Anybody have a better load for soft shooting mild competition use type stuff? I broke it in this afternoon with some hot factory HP's I had laying around (not the good ones though  ). No I am just waiting till payday to get some dies, supplies and more brass. I have had many 40's in the past and like them for work and they are fun to shoot, just to $ when I wasnt reloading.
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09-07-2010, 21:25
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Originally Posted by trlcavscout
Ok after reading everything and asking everybody heres advice I switched to the 40, picked up a new RTF2 G22 today. So I am thinking about starting with the 3.5gr Titegroup and 180 bullet. Anybody have a better load for soft shooting mild competition use type stuff? I broke it in this afternoon with some hot factory HP's I had laying around (not the good ones though  ). No I am just waiting till payday to get some dies, supplies and more brass. I have had many 40's in the past and like them for work and they are fun to shoot, just to $ when I wasnt reloading.
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That is a sweet load in a .40. I have a lot of loads that shoot very well with that bullet which I seat both HP & FP versions to 1.130 OAL:
4.0 grains of N-320
4.5 grains N-330
5.3 grains WSF
5.5 grains Silhouette
The 3.5 TG and 4.0 N-320 loads are my favorites...both soft shooting and turn in very nice 25 yard groups. My G-35 doesn't seem too picky with the 180 or 165 grain bullets.
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09-07-2010, 21:35
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Cool thanks. I was thinking about a 35, went to the LE dealer and seen on the board a used 35 for $400 I thought man I am in business!. Of course it sold 2 days ago  and I dont want it bad enough to pay $509.
I have shot alot of 40, all factory loads, and while manageable I would never call them soft. But if you guys say you can make them soft enough for competition I am game! I like the 40 for work.
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09-07-2010, 21:36
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"Switched to 40, now what?"
Hope it grows up and because a 10mm! 
Sorry Travis couldn't resist!  Enjoy your new 22! Have fun load safe..Bru
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09-07-2010, 21:51
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Originally Posted by AZBru88
"Switched to 40, now what?"
Hope it grows up and because a 10mm! 
Sorry Travis couldn't resist!  Enjoy your new 22! Have fun load safe..Bru 
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Hey that is 10mm's of awesome no doubt  but i just dont think I could harness that much earth moving power fast enough to shoot GSSF with it, In fact I truly believe that after 1 shot the plate rack would be cut into 2 pieces  and the holes in the target would be so big they would call all shots misses after the first shot took out the center
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09-07-2010, 22:43
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Originally Posted by D. Manley
That is a sweet load in a .40. I have a lot of loads that shoot very well with that bullet which I seat both HP & FP versions to 1.130 OAL:
4.0 grains of N-320
4.5 grains N-330
5.3 grains WSF
5.5 grains Silhouette
The 3.5 TG and 4.0 N-320 loads are my favorites...both soft shooting and turn in very nice 25 yard groups. My G-35 doesn't seem too picky with the 180 or 165 grain bullets.
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Same load i use for plinking, Ive been messing around with blue dot lately and up to 8 grains with 165gr RNFP 1.125 OAL. I love the muzzle flash.
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09-08-2010, 04:47
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for a soft IDPA load try 3.7 gr win231. 180 gr bullet
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09-08-2010, 09:00
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i have had great results with titegroup and 180gr bullets. although i use 4.0gr, i am gettiing 850fps with 4.0gr out of my g22 (stock). recoil and flash is minimal.
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09-08-2010, 10:33
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I use 4.2 Gr Power Pistol with a 180 gr Bear Creek Moly coated bullet. Soft and pretty cheap shooting with the 40. They recommend the slower powder with the Moly coating and it works well. 4.7 with their 155 gr is also nice and even cheaper.
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09-08-2010, 11:22
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I like that 3.5 TG with a 180 load.... used to load it for my Glock 23/27. However it got to a point where I thought, if I'm gonna load so soft for games.... I might as well shoot more 9mm which is cheaper...
I then dropped all my .40's and opted to carry .45ACP in a G30SF and started venturing into a 1911 platform for IDPA CDP and USPSA Single stack. I may go back to a .40 later down the line but for limited major in a 2011 gun I would think...
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09-08-2010, 11:22
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switch to a 9
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09-08-2010, 14:04
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I've been using Power Pistol with 180 FMJ. It seems to be a versatile power in the 40. I've loaded it fairly light from 5.3 and up to midrange of 6.2 and all loads were reasonably accurate and functioned without problems out of my G23. All my PP loads were OAL of 1.123.
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09-09-2010, 19:24
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Originally Posted by plasticpistol
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I just sold a 9 (3 of them). I like the idea of 40 so I can use it for work and play. I really like factory 40 loads for plinking, just want it a little softer for GSSF shooting. And I wont carry a 9 for work even though I could. Now I just have to shoot up 500rds of WWB 165gr FMJ and 250rds of HP's for the brass, I only have 250 pieces so far. Gonna be a fun sunday
I need to shoot up a couple hundred rounds of 223 in my AR for the brass also.
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09-09-2010, 19:27
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Originally Posted by trlcavscout
I just sold a 9 (3 of them). I like the idea of 40 so I can use it for work and play. I really like factory 40 loads for plinking, just want it a little softer for GSSF shooting. And I wont carry a 9 for work even though I could. Now I just have to shoot up 500rds of WWB 165gr FMJ and 250rds of HP's for the brass, I only have 250 pieces so far. Gonna be a fun sunday
I need to shoot up a couple hundred rounds of 223 in my AR for the brass also.
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You are as bad as me shooting up all of your ammo just to have brass to reload.
I have it pretty lucky though. One of the local outdoor ranges is on state game land. It always has PLENTY of 9 and 40 for me to pick up. They are both very popular calibers around here.
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09-09-2010, 19:56
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I have it pretty lucky though. One of the local outdoor ranges is on state game land. It always has PLENTY of 9 and 40 for me to pick up. They are both very popular calibers around here.
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I wish that was true around here.
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09-09-2010, 21:22
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Originally Posted by trlcavscout
Hey that is 10mm's of awesome no doubt  but i just dont think I could harness that much earth moving power fast enough to shoot GSSF with it, In fact I truly believe that after 1 shot the plate rack would be cut into 2 pieces  and the holes in the target would be so big they would call all shots misses after the first shot took out the center 
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I thought for major subs I'd load my light loads in my 29, last round one of my boomer loads!  Hopefully if the bullets haven't knocked the plates over the extra concussion will!  Maybe I better stick to my light loads and make sure my aim is on!
Hope things are going well. Went to Armorers school yesterday, that was great. Now I need to practice on my up coming first GSSF match. I did get a great laugh at your reply....I had to reweld my plate rack back together! Went to a heavy chain hanging my plates from the angle iron. Blew most of the eye bolts to pieces hitting the plates with my full house 10mm loads!
Enjoy your new gun, hope your practice is going well....Bru
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09-09-2010, 21:24
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Originally Posted by trlcavscout
Ok after reading everything and asking everybody heres advice I switched to the 40, picked up a new RTF2 G22 today. So I am thinking about starting with the 3.5gr Titegroup and 180 bullet. Anybody have a better load for soft shooting mild competition use type stuff? I broke it in this afternoon with some hot factory HP's I had laying around (not the good ones though  ). No I am just waiting till payday to get some dies, supplies and more brass. I have had many 40's in the past and like them for work and they are fun to shoot, just to $ when I wasnt reloading.
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Good load, I'm experimenting with some red dot on my next loads.
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09-09-2010, 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trlcavscout
I just sold a 9 (3 of them). I like the idea of 40 so I can use it for work and play. I really like factory 40 loads for plinking, just want it a little softer for GSSF shooting. And I wont carry a 9 for work even though I could. Now I just have to shoot up 500rds of WWB 165gr FMJ and 250rds of HP's for the brass, I only have 250 pieces so far. Gonna be a fun sunday
I need to shoot up a couple hundred rounds of 223 in my AR for the brass also.
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Or you could sell the factory stuff and buy once fired brass from any number of sources, get 2 to 3 times as much to reload.
I get 99% of my brass free at the local indoor range. I like to go on Sunday during the busy casual shooters times... politely ask if they are taking it with... then when they say no... I sweep up the entire bay....bag it and run it through the shell sorter at home... last trip was about 10 pounds worth or assorted 9, 40 and 45.
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09-09-2010, 21:45
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I bought a crap load of reloading equipment and supplies off a guy on Craigslist a few years ago, what I didn't want I sold. So I basically reload for free now.
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09-10-2010, 16:51
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Originally Posted by shotgunred
I wish that was true around here.
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If I ever feel like I have enough extra laying around. I would be happy to ship you a couple hundred pieces.
The nice part is, all of the range officers love it when I pick it all up. Then they don't have to pay to get rid of it all.
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09-10-2010, 17:40
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Originally Posted by DeerPredator
If I ever feel like I have enough extra laying around. I would be happy to ship you a couple hundred pieces.
The nice part is, all of the range officers love it when I pick it all up. Then they don't have to pay to get rid of it all. 
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Thanks for the offer. But I honestly don't need it. I am just a brass whore. I buy it by the K. I like to keep a 5 gallon jug of brass around. So it not like I don't have brass. I would just like to see some free range brass. I think I might have to find out were boxer goes and get him to invite me down for a Sunday session. I need more 40 and he doesn't use it.
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09-10-2010, 17:53
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Originally Posted by shotgunred
Thanks for the offer. But I honestly don't need it. I am just a brass whore. I buy it by the K. I like to keep a 5 gallon jug of brass around. So it not like I don't have brass. I would just like to see some free range brass. I think I might have to find out were boxer goes and get him to invite me down for a Sunday session. I need more 40 and he doesn't use it.

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Free brass is always good, whether you need it or not.
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09-10-2010, 18:50
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3.5 gr of tight group with a Lee 175gr, that's how I roll. (that was for fredj).
I use it in my G23 for USPSA matches. I like it better than the 9mm 150gr with 3.5 because it handles the steel better.
By the way, OKC Gun Club had 100 shooters at the monthly match last Saturday.
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09-11-2010, 07:27
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For those that like 3.5 gr of TG with 180 gr bullets....try the same charge with 155 gr bullets....840 fps of plinking/soft shooting goodness...
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09-11-2010, 09:27
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Originally Posted by MSgt Dotson
For those that like 3.5 gr of TG with 180 gr bullets....try the same charge with 155 gr bullets....840 fps of plinking/soft shooting goodness...
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What the heck. I don't have any 155 but I do have some 165 in a box. I am on my to the range so I will load up a few.
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