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10-10-2010, 21:40
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9MM Powder Help
I've been shooting 115gr FMJ with 6.3gr 3n37 with excellent results in my Cougar 8000. Well, I just ran out and VV powders are not available locally, time for a powder change until I can place a new online order.
I have several different powders on hand and I could use some help narrowing it down. Here is what I have. Thanks
WST
WSF
Unique
Silhouette
AA #2
AA #7
AA #9
Blue Dot
231
Longshot
Red Dot
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10-10-2010, 21:54
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WST, WSF, Unique, W231 and Blue Dot will all definitely work in the 9mm. Check your reloading manuals for appropriate charge weights for each powder. Although I don't use AA powders, I am pretty sure some of them will also be useable.
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10-10-2010, 22:12
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Unique! Works great for every caliber, and load, except for the hot ones!
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10-10-2010, 22:46
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For the 9mm, all of those will work. I like medium burners in high pressure/small volumn cases. Unique is a great choice for all bullet wts & WSF is just better metering Unique, also great.
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10-10-2010, 23:10
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I have used W231 on my G34 for both USPSA and IDPA with good results.
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10-10-2010, 23:21
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Of the ones you have listed the only one I have tried is WST in 9mm... I would be curious to give Silhouette a try though. I know a few guys that use it for 9mm major loads in USPSA Open.
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10-11-2010, 06:20
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I started with WSF and 115 gr FMJ's and it works great in my G17 and full auto in a CA89K. I've also loaded with Unique with the same results although I find WSF meters better.
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10-11-2010, 06:49
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A great selection of 9mm powders you have there.
I'd have no qualms using WST, WSF, Unique, AA2, AA7 or 231. The others may work well; but I've got no experience with them in 9mm.
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10-11-2010, 07:58
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I like AA#7.
Works great in 9mm.
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10-11-2010, 08:05
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Just get a big jug of Unique. You'll always have a use for it even if you decide to go another direction for 9mm.
I use it for 9mm, .45 auto, .45 Colt, .357 mag and .44 mag.
I also second WSF... good stuff
I would say definitely skip the Blue Dot for 9mm. It's going to make a big boom and give you a big fireball all for the tradeoff of maybe a little better performance.
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10-11-2010, 08:20
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WSF is my choice.
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10-11-2010, 08:25
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I like and use W231 for 9mm,.45ACP and .38 Special.
It does a good job and it is nice to have one powder for my most shot calibers.
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10-11-2010, 08:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysshootin
Unique! Works great for every caliber, and load, except for the hot ones!
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Is there a problem using Unique for 9mm hot loads, or are you talking about bigger calibers?
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10-11-2010, 09:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freakshow10mm
WSF is my choice.
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Second on that!
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10-11-2010, 11:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve4102
I've been shooting 115gr FMJ with 6.3gr 3n37 with excellent results in my Cougar 8000. Well, I just ran out and VV powders are not available locally, time for a powder change until I can place a new online order.
I have several different powders on hand and I could use some help narrowing it down. Here is what I have. Thanks
WST
WSF
Unique
Silhouette
AA #2
AA #7
AA #9
Blue Dot
231
Longshot
Red Dot
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Of those powders most will work for different types of loads but IMHO, WSF and Silhouette are the hands down winners.
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10-11-2010, 12:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Is there a problem using Unique for 9mm hot loads, or are you talking about bigger calibers?
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I'm guessing he means the hotter cartridges. You'll likely only get mid range velocities in .44 mag, for example.
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10-11-2010, 13:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CitizenOfDreams
Is there a problem using Unique for 9mm hot loads, or are you talking about bigger calibers?
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Not at all, you can safely run +P vel w/ most bullet wts & Unique, but barely. If you want to run hot, go slower, like HS6 or AA#7, Longshot, BlueDot or even PowerPistol.
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10-11-2010, 15:08
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I got a couple of lbs of Longshot,I have been using it on 40SW.....Curious if anyone has used it
w 9MM........
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10-11-2010, 15:18
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If you like your current powder you should probably pick another with a similiar burn rate. Start there, then look at the list. That list is all over the place as far as burn rate is concerned. I would add Power Pistol if you haven't tried it. Great powder, cheap, burns nicely, good speed in pistol calibers, high volume as well.
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10-11-2010, 16:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
Not at all, you can safely run +P vel w/ most bullet wts & Unique, but barely. If you want to run hot, go slower, like HS6 or AA#7, Longshot, BlueDot or even PowerPistol.
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I only lose about 50fps or so in 357mag vs. 2400 and with half the charge weight. It can work well at top end if you want to limit the number of powders you have.
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10-11-2010, 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiskyT
I only lose about 50fps or so in 357mag vs. 2400 and with half the charge weight. It can work well at top end if you want to limit the number of powders you have.
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With lighter bullets, I agree. If you are running 158gr & up, you run out of pressure room a bit sooner. I can easily hit 1350fps w/ 125gr in a 4" 357mag using Unique.
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10-11-2010, 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
With lighter bullets, I agree. If you are running 158gr & up, you run out of pressure room a bit sooner. I can easily hit 1350fps w/ 125gr in a 4" 357mag using Unique.
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I was using cast 158's. I was getting high 1100's with Unique and low 1200's with 2400 in a 4" GP100. I think the slower powders are overall better for max loads, but Unique will still perfom well for a loader who has a jug of it sitting in his cabinet.
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10-11-2010, 18:11
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My memory is a little off. I checked my notes and it was 1070 for Unique and 1140 with 2400 in a 2.25" SP101. A longer barrel would have probably tipped things a bit more to the 2400 load, and even though I was using the max in the data I had for 2400, it is my belief that I could have loaded them a little hotter using older data and not had any pressure problems.
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10-11-2010, 18:49
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Most of the 9mms I've loaded have been with either Unique or W231. Both work just fine.
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10-12-2010, 06:32
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Thanks everyone, I'm off to the loading bench.
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