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Old 10-16-2010, 19:49   #1
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Federal HST .45 ACP 230 grn WHERE TO GET?

After much discussion on PD ammo here after my recent purchase of a G30, I have concluded to go with the HST. Does ANYONE know where I can find some without paying a buck a round off gunjoker?

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Old 10-16-2010, 20:50   #2
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I always bought mine from Streicher's. Luckily I bought a bunch when it was $22 a box of fifty, it is up to about $30 now.
I quit dealing with them after my last order was not in stock for six months.
I would call in an order to be sure they have it.
Also try a Google search to see if it turns up any.
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Old 10-16-2010, 22:33   #3
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There isn't any even on Gunbroker. Some Tactical HST at $1 per but none of the regular HST.

This is another reason I prefer Gold Dots.

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Old 10-16-2010, 22:47   #4
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Wait...Federal HST is not the same thing as Federal Tactical HST? I was under the impression they were the same thing.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:03   #5
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Here are a few sites that do carry HST, but they all happen to be out of .45 at the moment.
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...pig27&ct=65202
http://www.kylesgunshop.com/store.ph...r=KylesGunshop
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php
http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/pg10243

What I would do is place an order with Streicher's, who is also out of stock, but they let you backorder. While waiting for the Streicher's backorder to come in, I'd keep checking the other sites. If they get some in stock before Streicher's, I'd cancel the Streicher's order. Just keep in mind, Streicher's charges you right away when you place the order, not when the order comes in stock and is ready to ship.

But, that plan could take months. If you need some right now, you might have to pay gunbroker prices.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:39   #6
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Streicher's is an LE website. Can any ol' Joe order from them? There should be a note somewhere whether a particular brand/weight bullet is back ordered or not. Most sight's I've been to will show this at least at checkout.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:54   #7
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Alright...but is the tactical HST the same thing? That guy has me confused...
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:14   #8
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All the new HST comes in colorful boxes that say "tactical" on them. I don't know what cowboy1964 is referring to when he says "regular HST." Maybe he means the older box design. I don't think they had "tactical" printed on them.
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Streicher's is an LE website. Can any ol' Joe order from them? There should be a note somewhere whether a particular brand/weight bullet is back ordered or not. Most sight's I've been to will show this at least at checkout.
Yes, anyone can order from them.

However, some of the ammo is restricted to LE only. They specifically say the Winchester Ranger is restricted, but they don't say anything about the HST.

Once you put ammo in your cart, go look at your cart contents. It will tell you then if the product is in stock, or if it's backordered.
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I think he means "bonded" for the tactical. However, if you go to http://mahsupplies.net/ all boxes say Tactical on the but, I have a couple boxes of 40 S&W 165 gr P40HST3 I ordered and the box came with just HST on it-no tactical.

BTW-thanks for that info on Streicher's.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:43   #11
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So the tactical is just a new box design? The number is the same....P45HST2...
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:16   #12
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Yeah sorry, Tactical Bonded is not HST. All HST is not bonded.

But yeah, not paying $50 per box.
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Old 10-17-2010, 16:47   #13
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So the stuff on GB is the real HST...just outrageously priced.
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There is no cheap ammo anymore. That's why I roll my own except for the 100 rounds of whatever I intend on using for SD. I'll shoot a couple boxes of 50 and if they're good to go, I don't shoot them anymore except on occasion. At $20-30 box for 20 not many of us can afford to unless you're a Bill Gates.
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I stopped dealing with Streicher's after they charged my credit card immediately for back ordered ammo.
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I stopped dealing with Streicher's after they charged my credit card immediately for back ordered ammo.
So what? You act like there's something shady about doing it that way. Pay now, or pay later, you're still paying for it.

I guess I would almost rather be charged up front for back ordered goods. It's easier to keep track of funds that way. As opposed to being surprised by the charge on your credit card a few weeks or months down the road.
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So what? You act like there's something shady about doing it that way. Pay now, or pay later, you're still paying for it.

I guess I would almost rather be charged up front for back ordered goods. It's easier to keep track of funds that way. As opposed to being surprised by the charge on your credit card a few weeks or months down the road.
So you're saying i should give Streicher's an interest free loan? Cabela doesn't do it. Ammo to Go doesn't do it. I use a computer to manage my money. I don't need your system.

No thanks
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I stopped dealing with Streicher's after they charged my credit card immediately for back ordered ammo.
I waited 4 months before I canceled the order.

Funny how when you place the order they don't say "expected in 4-6 months". They are the only online retailer I've ever dealt with that charges immediately. No way I would deal with someone like that. What if they go belly up? Good luck getting a refund. No thanks.

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I waited 4 months before I canceled the order.

Funny how when you place the order they don't say "expected in 4-6 months". They are the only online retailer I've ever dealt with that charges immediately. No way I would deal with someone like that. What if they go belly up? Get luck getting a refund. No thanks.
Yup. I waited 6 weeks. and then cancelled. Then you have to go through the hassle off waiting for the credit to post. I don't do business with vendors who take my money and don't give me the product I paid for. As you said, I've never seen any other on line vendor do this either.

I don't give car dealers 40k and have them say the car is back ordered, come back in 2 months. Same thing to me.
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So you're saying i should give Streicher's an interest free loan? Cabela doesn't do it. Ammo to Go doesn't do it. I use a computer to manage my money. I don't need your system.

No thanks
I'm glad you use a computer. I use one too, but mine can't predict the future.

For example...

I ordered an AR-15 from a company last year for $1400. I was told it would be back ordered for six months. So I was expecting to pay out $1400 in six months.

Well, surprise, it came in two months early. Unfortunately, I just had a couple unexpected major expenses pop up right about that same time, so I wasn't ready to pay out $1400 and it inconvenienced me quite a bit.

If I had paid up front, everything would have worked out a lot better for me and there would have been no problem.

My computer didn't foresee that happening. Would yours have?

In any event, that's why paying up front is not necessarily a bad thing.
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