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10-28-2010, 18:52
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Dillon 550
I think I got a good deal yesterday.
A dillon 550 press, .45 and .40/10mm caliber conversions, an old set of RCBS .40/10mm dies and 4,000 once fired mixed head stamp brass. The guy told me he was retired from the police department and police range officer gave him all this brass. ???????? The brass is a combination of 10mm, .40 S&W, 38 special, and .45acp all sorted by calibers in 3 large boxes.
This was a package deal off Craigslist for $ 350.00 I think its all there except for one of the tool holders locator pins possibly a few other small parts.
I called Dillon today and as everyone stated in the past their customer service is top notched. This is my first progressive press and I think I will send it in for the $47.95 refurbishing job. I want them to go through the press and make it like new and update it with the Lock-Link Bell Crank assembly and add the early primer buzzer. I guess adding these couple of things will make it a 550B.
Dillon should also rebuild the older style powder measure with spring assembly. Does anybody have an old manual or mechanical breakdown for the old style powder measure with spring assembly?
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10-28-2010, 19:11
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Jacks #1 Fan
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Not bad... after your refurb cost and shipping your about $430-440 into it with a extra conversion and Free brass...
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10-28-2010, 19:22
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Jack's buddy!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerglocker
Not bad... after your refurb cost and shipping your about $430-440 into it with a extra conversion and Free brass...
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ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets 
Bob
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10-28-2010, 19:31
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Originally Posted by Bob2223
ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets
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I DIDN'T SAY IT, I DIDN'T SAY IT... it was that trouble making flatlander.
Please take notice that I also didn't point out that the press the flatlander is eluding to is also closer to a 650 than a 550 but I have taken a vow of non-contentiousness so I didn't bring it up.
Behave yourself flatlander...
(I think the OP still did pretty good, you'll enjoy that press for many, many years.)
Jack
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10-28-2010, 20:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob2223
ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets
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Hence my opinion "Not bad"...
I didn't want to be rude and blow the wind out of the OP's sails... but being as you did it for me... I'll admit that I would have passed on this particular deal myself and probably gone for the LNL for that amount.
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Last edited by Boxerglocker; 10-28-2010 at 20:33..
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10-28-2010, 20:50
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reloading nut
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Not a bad deal.
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10-28-2010, 22:24
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That deal is down right great! If you need any old manuals contact dillon and they will throw it in with your press when it ships back to you. They should include the correct manuals anyway. Good score.
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10-28-2010, 22:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob2223
ya BG your right, but for the same $ the other option woulda been a new press with free bullets
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You are being so abrasive!  It's a fair price. Though after shipping & refurbish cost, you could have probably bought new from Brian E for about the same price. The good thing, you are on your way to reloading! 
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Last edited by fredj338; 10-29-2010 at 10:13..
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10-29-2010, 06:13
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Jack's buddy!
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OK guyz, I was just ribbin BG,  "I enjoy that ?"
Wasn't trying to be an abrasive trouble making flatlander.
The OP got a good press and a start in reloading 
Congrats on your press!
Bob
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10-29-2010, 10:42
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AAAAAAAAGHHH!!!
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I don't understand sending in a press you haven't used yet.
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10-29-2010, 11:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
You are being so abrasive! It's a fair price. Though after shipping & refurbish cost, you could have probably bought new from Brian E for about the same price. The good thing, you are on your way to reloading! |
Thank you Fred, I agree it's a decent score $360 is 75% of a new 550b with Dillon dies, it's all relative. I bought both my SDB's for less than $200 nett after making deals selling off extra conversions and such and still ended up with 5 conversions/toolheads for myself shared between 2 machines.
The OP could sell brass and the extra conversion if not needed could be sold to offset the cost even further.
There is a member here on the GT forum that just sold (2) 550bs here locally in my area, set-up in 9mm or .45 with strongmounts/bullet trays and roller handles for $325 each and yet another set-up in .223 rifle for $375.
I would hope that when the Op sends it in Dillon just throws a new 550b in a box and sends it to him...
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Originally Posted by albyihat
That deal is down right great! If you need any old manuals contact dillon and they will throw it in with your press when it ships back to you. They should include the correct manuals anyway. Good score.
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If you need any manuals you can go to thier website and download them for FREE.
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10-29-2010, 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredj338
You are being so abrasive! It's a fair price. Though after shipping & refurbish cost, you could have probably bought new from Brian E for about the same price. The good thing, you are on your way to reloading! |
HA! The flatlander got in trouble! I'm so happy I could break out in unabashed dance...  dancingbanana:
Jack
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10-29-2010, 13:09
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Originally Posted by GioaJack
HA! The flatlander got in trouble! I'm so happy I could break out in unabashed dance... dancingbanana:
Jack |
Jack, do you have to give those bananas Viagra to get them dance like that? 
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Thank you Fred, I agree it's a decent score $360 is 75% of a new 550b with Dillon dies, it's all relative. I bought both my SDB's for less than $200 nett after making deals selling off extra conversions and such and still ended up with 5 conversions/toolheads for myself shared between 2 machines.
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I sold my extra 550B to buddy. one conversion, primer warning, extra tool head & some other little goodies for $325. It didn't need refurbishing, he's happy, I'm happy, everyone is reloading, life is good.
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Last edited by fredj338; 10-29-2010 at 13:13..
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10-29-2010, 13:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioaJack
HA! The flatlander got in trouble! I'm so happy I could break out in unabashed dance... dancingbanana:
Jack |
OK thats it !
I aint never postin here again !
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10-29-2010, 14:18
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So when you send it in for a refurb are they going to restore it to good running condition or UPDATE it and restore it. I always thought it was just a restore. They MAY update it at the same time but it was not a requirment for them to do that.
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10-29-2010, 14:35
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
So when you send it in for a refurb are they going to restore it to good running condition or UPDATE it and restore it. I always thought it was just a restore. They MAY update it at the same time but it was not a requirment for them to do that.
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why do you think dillon cost so damn much? cause they fix and give you everything for the rest of your life for free
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10-29-2010, 15:11
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Thats not true in my experiance. You have a old press with old style powder measure they do not just uprgrade you to the never version of the powder measure for the heck of it. It needs to be broken and then they would just replace the broken parts. But you would not get the associated parts for the upgrade.
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10-29-2010, 15:18
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I gotta ask...
what is SDB, LNL, &
who is Brian E?
Thanks,
salty
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10-29-2010, 15:27
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Conifer Jack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
Thats not true in my experiance. You have a old press with old style powder measure they do not just uprgrade you to the never version of the powder measure for the heck of it. It needs to be broken and then they would just replace the broken parts. But you would not get the associated parts for the upgrade.
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Little Stevie is right, (I think I just threw-up a little). I have two of the older spring actuated powder measures on the 550 and SD and if I want to upgrade them to the fail-safe system I have to pay for it.
Really don't hold it against Dillon though... I bought the product I wanted for the price I agreed to with a warranty... not a lifetime supply of 'new' products.
Jack
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A PACIFIST is someone who won't raise their hands to defend themselves...
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10-29-2010, 15:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
Thats not true in my experiance. You have a old press with old style powder measure they do not just uprgrade you to the never version of the powder measure for the heck of it. It needs to be broken and then they would just replace the broken parts. But you would not get the associated parts for the upgrade.
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Actually in most cases they will upgrade to the newer "Improved" failsafe powder measure. I know a few guys that sent thiers in and had to request that the older one (spring loaded) left be as is. They feel it runs smoother.
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10-29-2010, 15:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerglocker
Actually in most cases they will upgrade to the newer "Improved" failsafe powder measure. I know a few guys that sent thiers in and had to request that the older one (spring loaded) left be as is. They feel it runs smoother.
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That is how my first one was done. I had an issue w/ the powder measure & they sent me a new one w/ linkage. Even @ $50 for a refurbish, if they replace all bearings & arms, & you got the press cheap enough, certainly worth it.
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10-30-2010, 11:27
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They charge to "refurbish"? I took a 550 in that I got on a $100 package deal. (3 conversions, 4 sets of dies, three tool heads and stands, NIB 10-10 scale, 3 pounds of powder, 1000 FMJ bullets, Dillon Magnum tumbler, 10 pounds of media, 8 boxes of factory 9 MM, 5 boxes 12 gauge factory ammo and five boxes of 357.)
The press didn't prime right and I was frustrated so I took it in. Ten days later I have new primer set up and new linkage for the ram. No charge.
Greg
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10-30-2010, 12:03
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Bustin Caps
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saltydog452
I gotta ask...
what is SDB, Dillon Square Deal B press.
LNL, Hornady Lock N Load press, probably the best non-Dillon press around
who is Brian E? Brian Enos... one of *the* top shooters of the 90s. Now retired, now runs the site: http://www.brianenos.com/ You can order Dillon presses there, free shipping on orders above $400.
Thanks,
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Answered.
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10-30-2010, 12:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GLShooter
They charge to "refurbish"? I took a 550 in that I got on a $100 package deal. (3 conversions, 4 sets of dies, three tool heads and stands, NIB 10-10 scale, 3 pounds of powder, 1000 FMJ bullets, Dillon Magnum tumbler, 10 pounds of media, 8 boxes of factory 9 MM, 5 boxes 12 gauge factory ammo and five boxes of 357.)
The press didn't prime right and I was frustrated so I took it in. Ten days later I have new primer set up and new linkage for the ram. No charge.
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I think they have started to charge a nominal fee for folks buying used presses & wanting them updated. Seems fair to me. I have never paid for a part for an upgrade though, whether powder measure or priming slides, springs whatever.
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"Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified".
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10-30-2010, 12:33
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reloading nut
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Does it even need refurbishing?
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