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Old 10-28-2011, 20:27   #1
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New to reloading. Where to get brass and bullets online?

Looking for woods gun use in my G20.

200 grain likely, hard cast with gas check. Shot a bunch of Double Tap in my factory barrel. Heard some varying reports about the safety in doing so. Is stock barrel ok with hot 200 gr hard cast?

Also, where do you guys order brass? For that matter, what is pro/con of nickel versus brass? I see both at Midway, but not sure what is best for reloading.

Any good online sources for 200 grain hard cast bullets?


Thanks for any info to help me get started reloading the 10mm.



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Old 10-28-2011, 20:36   #2
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Star Line ot Top Brass are good choices if you want bulk purchase of 1K or more!
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Old 10-28-2011, 21:01   #3
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I was looking at 200wfngc bullets and Double tap has them for $22 for 100
and then there is one called beartooth as well that I have read is pretty good.
I got brass from starline before but just got 1000 from top brass since they had it in stock!
I am just trying to find out what powder would be best for the 200gr wfngc I have longshot and powerpistol and going to get some bluedot this weekend
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Old 10-28-2011, 21:06   #4
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Thanks man. I emailed Beartooth bullets and Friendswood bullets. Both offer 200, 220, 230, etc.. grain hard cast.


Ok for my stock barrel? Eager to learn more about this. Do I need to invest in an aftermarket barrel?


Where do you guys buy brass. MidwayUSA is the only source I know of and much of it is back ordered. Some till Feb 2012!!


Also, given the 220 gr bullets and such, how do you find a recipe, a starting point? Nothing will be in the manuals from what I can see.
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http://www.scharch.com/proddetail.php?prod=TBXMMAUTCY-M

this is where I got my brass 140 for 1000 plus shipping, and 70 something for 500
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Old 10-28-2011, 21:19   #6
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Lead isn't suppose to be used in a stock barrel. You could get an after market barrel and blast away. Also the after market barrel will have more support and is more suited to the full power loads.
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Old 10-28-2011, 21:42   #7
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Starline brass from either Starline or MidWay USA. Bullets from local or MidSouth Shooters Supply, MidWay USA or bullet companies.
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Old 10-29-2011, 00:23   #8
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powder and primers from Powder valley, brass from Starline.
Nickel cases are good, but the brass will usually let you get more loads from it. I segregate nickel cases for more serious loads, and brass for practice or general purpose loads.
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Thanks for the input guys. I appreciate it. Sounds like pros and cons either way.
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Old 10-29-2011, 19:34   #10
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Just ordered a KKM stock length barrel for my G20. Sounds like the way to go if loading hot ammo. One less thing to worry about either way and I hope accuracy is better. Time will tell.
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Let us know how you like the KKM. I'm trying to decide between the KKM and the Storm Lake. I would like to find a 6" ported for hunting hogs.
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Old 10-30-2011, 06:24   #12
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powder and primers from Powder valley, brass from Starline.
Nickel cases are good, but the brass will usually let you get more loads from it. I segregate nickel cases for more serious loads, and brass for practice or general purpose loads.
Not in my personal experience. Nickel is lasting longer. Might want to read:
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1378334
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With STARLINE nickel, i do agree. I have other brands that the nickel flakes off, the necks embrittle, ect. This also happens to brass cases -flaking aside, of course.

I like nickel brass as it shrugs off conditions that will generally corrode plain brass.

Have not done a cat urine test on nickel yet, though.

What calibers are you finding the nickel lasts longer, Kwesi?
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With STARLINE nickel, i do agree. I have other brands that the nickel flakes off, the necks embrittle, ect. This also happens to brass cases -flaking aside, of course.

I like nickel brass as it shrugs off conditions that will generally corrode plain brass.

Have not done a cat urine test on nickel yet, though.

What calibers are you finding the nickel lasts longer, Kwesi?
10mm at or near max load per manuals with 180gr FMJ's.
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My reloading goals for my G20 are to make the most powerful 200 gr hard cast rounds I can safely shoot. Would nickel be better for my intended purpose?


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Old 10-30-2011, 20:03   #16
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Reloading 10mm is like the golf game, many will pay big bucks to get a driver that "can" drive a just few yards longer.

The real game, however, keeps score that relies on accuracy!
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Old 10-30-2011, 20:10   #17
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I get that, just happens to be my reason for owning the G20 is a very specific one. Trying to buy 500 rounds of brass and figured it best to find out now which type is better for my usage.
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Old 10-30-2011, 21:50   #18
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WFNGC harscast bullets are GTG in a Glock barrel. Don't shoot more than a few dozen before checking for leading. These are very different type of bullet than cast lead.

Order brass from starlinebrass.com. Best brass. Best price. Will usually have about a two week back order, but the price includes shipping.

The only way to know if nickel is better for getting max loads in one's setup is to do load workups for both regular brass and nickel plated brass.
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Order brass from starlinebrass.com. Best brass. Best price.
Georgia Arms and BVAC use Starline brass. That's good volume endorsements, so I pick them too.
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If you get primers and powder local you have no HAZ-MAT or shipping fees. Sometimes you can find a online deal for free shipping or HAZ-MAT on primers and powder.
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