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Old 12-06-2010, 14:43   #1
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SA Confusion - EMP Discontinued?

Hey everyone, my father called his friend who is an FFL dealer, and long story short, he said that 12 different distributors are telling him the EMP has feeding issues and they refuse to order anymore. Furthermore, he (the dealer) apparently called SA and they confirmed that they are stopping production of the EMP's due to this issue.

Now, when I heard this I immediately was appalled. Naturally, I called SA to confirm this, and the lady I talked to said she was unaware of this, and that the current backorder is 6 months.

So I'm asking you guys...has anyone heard any information about this? I figured the reason I can't find any is because the RO was just released and they temporarily weren't running any EMP production. Unfortunately, it's hear-say, however my dad's friend (the dealer) is a good friend of his and I don't think he would lie...

I'm just so confused! Why would SA build the EMP from the ground up (after scrapping the .45 GAP), just to later scrap it for "feeding issues?"

Edit*** Upon further investigation, it seems that SA told him that they are not producing any EMP's, "at this time". This leads me to believe they are NOT going to permanently stop production, however as my initial hunch suggest...they are stopping because of RO production. I also hope they will look into the feeding issues, as I know Quack and quite a few others have had to adjust the tension on their extractors. Hrmmm...

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Old 12-06-2010, 15:00   #2
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I have never heard of this - the gun has been out long enough that short of just a bad batch, the series of guns as a hold are reliable. There were somewhat of a fair amount of complaints when the gun very FIRST came out. But I don't really see complaints about it anymore.

I wouldn't believe it - but it is strange that this answer is popping up from "12 different distributors"

EDIT - I see your additional comments now..

Springfield does build models in "batches."

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Old 12-06-2010, 15:05   #3
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I would say that whoever is saying that is trying to push you something else because the backorder, as SA told you, is 6 months and they don't have one in hands to sell it to you.

I recently purchased a 9mm and it has been 100% reliable!!!
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Old 12-06-2010, 15:06   #4
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I wouldn't sweat it. There are plenty on GB.
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Old 12-06-2010, 15:18   #5
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I should just buy a KC and sell my VMII.

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Old 12-06-2010, 15:25   #6
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I have a friend with one, and it has been totally reliable.
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Old 12-06-2010, 17:15   #7
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We have heard absolutely nothing!! We deal with 5 different distributors and would have heard something and just talked to one today about an EMP. Sounds just like gun shop banter to me. They are extremely hard to get and thats why many may think there discontinued. SA runs there builds in batches so when distributors are out, there out for A WHILE!
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Old 12-06-2010, 17:17   #8
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Yea this really sucks...trying to find/get my first 1911 and my first carry gun, and things aren't going so well. However, I could go anywhere and get a plastic gun.

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Old 12-06-2010, 17:22   #9
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If you want one and dont want to wait, just go to GB! There are people on there who are pricing them very well! And no wait! I have wanted one for awhile, if i had to pay retail for one, i would order one in a heartbeat off there.
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Old 12-06-2010, 17:23   #10
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Gunbroker has lots of them. Budsgunshop has .40 and you can reserve the 9mm.
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Old 12-06-2010, 17:40   #11
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They produce guns in different runs. so the EMP is not running right now and they just got done with the RO. so for the guns made in IL, i would think that they are probably going to run the TRP or Operator line next since those seem scarce right now and it's fairly similar to the RO in regards to fit.

Springfield had feeding issues in the very early run (before #4000) where the feed ramp angle was wrong. the current common issue is the extractor tension being too tight, but (just like Kimber) you only hear of the problems and not all the ones running problem free. my EMP is 2 years old and in the 7xxx range. i bought it about 2 years after the release, and they are in the 16,xxx range now (4 years after it was released). with that said, i don't think it's going anywhere

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Old 12-06-2010, 17:42   #12
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and just to annoy you, here's a pic of a blacked out EMP

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Old 12-06-2010, 19:22   #13
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and just to annoy you, here's a pic of a blacked out EMP

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Old 12-06-2010, 19:25   #14
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Discontinued! It better not be! the EMP 40 is on my short list for 2011.
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Old 12-06-2010, 19:55   #15
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I don't think they'll discountinue it. All I've heard are good thing about the EMPs. It's a hot selling pistol right now.
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I agree Hokie! That is one heck of a sharp EMP though!
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Looks like Buds has one in stock (in 9mm) so I'm going to call them tomorrow...I hope I can get the military pricing as well. If they still have it, I might be making a trip to Buds tomorrow! Anyone want to go!?

And the only problem with GB is that I don't really want to pay the (usually) higher cost, plus shipping, plus FFL fees. So that's why I'm trying so hard to find one in person. Thanks for all the help though!

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Old 12-06-2010, 20:35   #18
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Didn't I tell you to try buds a while back

If they don't have one, call jetguns.
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Old 12-06-2010, 21:10   #19
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http://shop.proarmament.com/model-19...i-p-12880.html
Pro Armament had one last time i was there. If you call and talk to Drew, tell him i (Don) sent you over (i bought my Guardian from him). I've sent a few people over to him looking for DW's.

Olde English has one listed on their website. price is higher, but you could see if they can do any better.
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"Our low price of $1,167.86"...ouch.
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Old 12-06-2010, 21:43   #22
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"Our low price of $1,167.86"...ouch.
Yeah, it's all price and demand though my friend. I paid under $900 OTD for mine LNIB with 150 rounds through it (extra mag included).

I would do it again in the heartbeat, put in the same situation. It's a great gun.
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A friend has one. Neat little pistol.
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:33   #24
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Yea, that's why I'm a bit cautious about paying (what I think) is too much. $1200+ is just too much imo, because I KNOW I could get one cheaper, but I would have to wait. I certainly don't need one right now, but the sooner I get it, the sooner Quack will stop posting pics.

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Needs new grips, otherwise, that is SWEET.

yeah, black grips and a flat trigger to complete the murdered out EMP!

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