[Hicksville Kid]

I have two .22 target pistols and because my eyes are 'elderly', I have both equipped with Red Dot sights. I do much better with the Red Dots than with open iron sights. I was wondering about putting one on a Glock. With the .22s the mounting is above the slide and doesn't move when the gun is fired. My question is this: Can you mount a Red Dot on a Glock slide or any other gun where the slide moves? Aside from changing the mass of the slide, and possible spring problems, will the Red Dot handle the movement fore and aft on every shot? Has anyone done this? What was the outcome? I would imagine that it takes a beating and the electronics and the glass might not make it for very long.

If you've done it, I would like to hear what happened.

Thanks, Mike

[faawrenchbndr]

The Burris Fast Fire II is a good option for what you want.
There are a few others as well, J-Point is another, made by JP Enterprises

[robin303]

A lot of the guys use this at the pistol matches I go to.
http://www.dawsonprecision.com/Categ...d+Front+Sights

[Dingus]

The C-More STS is becoming very popular in GSSF (Glock) competition, and is available from www.midwayusa.com

It ain't cheap, and requires an appropriate mount.

[windplex]

Mike I saw one used by a trainer in a leo magazine. he believes it is the future. it was simple and small; had an integral groove in case the battery died. and it was mounted to a glock. about 1 year ago. the base was smaller than the ones noted here -- likely a prototype or simply not listed here.

i too, believe it is the future of defensive pistols and I too, have aging eyes. brian

[Cheytac]

Yes and very popular...

I'm not far behind you...

[tyrenlds]

google 'glock RMR'

[HAMMERHEAD]

Ten years ago or so for fun I bought one of the early Tascos, it would not hold zero. I'm in the market now because it's becoming necessary.
I'm looking at the Trijicon RMR dual illuminated model (no batteries required), but it's pricy-the Glock mount alone is over $100.
Others I'm looking at are the new Leupold Deltapoint (only one with an HK mount), Docter and J-Point.
I have the full size Trijicon Reflex sight on my .357 revolver, love it, but it's too big for a slide ride.

[NailShooter]

Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr

The Burris Fast Fire II is a good option for what you want.
There are a few others as well, J-Point is another, made by JP Enterprises

I bought a J-Point (was on a used 357 mag revo) and I put it on a G20! I shot plates with it for awhile and no problems (not real heavy loads though). It continues to hang in there while riding the slide.

They have a real small window and it takes awhile to "find" the little red dot in the screen. Regards,

Nail

[ColdBlooded]

Leupold Deltapoint worked fine when I had one on my 17.

[AZ Husker]

Must be hard to find carry holsters with one?

[VAisForGlockers]

Originally Posted by AZ Husker

Must be hard to find carry holsters with one?

I wouldnt think so? Where the red dot is mounted is not holstered so I would think it would be more of a comfort issue for carry rather than a holster issue

[bentbiker]

Originally Posted by Hicksville Kid

. . . my eyes are 'elderly', I have both equipped with Red Dot sights.

My question is this: Can you mount a Red Dot on a Glock slide or any other gun where the slide moves?

Has anyone done this? What was the outcome? I would imagine that it takes a beating and the electronics and the glass might not make it for very long.

If you've done it, I would like to hear what happened.

Mike, there are a few threads over in the Sights/Optics forum, but the answer is that nothing matches the Red Dots for those of us with old eyes. Check out http://www.onesourcetactical.com/adv...mersslide.aspx for the guys who have done the most testing on this. The RMR has a lifetime warranty, so Trijicon evidently thinks it will last. Mine works beautifully. Looks like they now do RMR, DeltaPoint,FastFire II, and J-Point.

If you want to try the RMR using a dovetail mount before committing to milling your slide, I can vouch for it as well, but even Trijicon admits that milling the slide is the better approach. I put the mount on an AA slide, and it works surprisingly well in spite of the extra weight of both the mount and the RMR.

[hawkeye10]

Red Dots scopes and such are not to my liking. To much bouncing around. JMO I know a lot of people like them. Don

[bentbiker]

Originally Posted by hawkeye10

Too much bouncing around.

You really should try an RMR.

[ChicagoZman]

Have a Burris Fastfire II on my 24 mounted in the rear sight dovetail. It works great

[Angry Fist]

I like mine....

I need to get up with the times, however...

[TSAX]

You can get a good red dot in the Burris Fastfire II for around $215 and $45 for the mount, I saw the Leopould somewhere for like $350 and the RMR was $400+

[rube12345]

http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/

I have fired a Bowie Tactical M&P 9. The back up irons make finding the dot much easier than I think it would be without the irons to index your eye. A couple friends have work done by Bowie on other pistols and swear by his work.

Years ago I found that using a red dot on a long gun feels like cheating when compared to using iron sights.

I have very limited experience with red dots on handguns, but am starting to think that the advantage is going to be just as dramatic as a red dot on a rifle.

rube

[drscasey]

Installed a Burris Red Dot on sons glock last week,it is mounted in the rear sight dovetail. Took it to range sat. and made world of difference.he was much more accurate and with my old eyes i could believe the difference,could see target much better and shoot more accurate. Get it sighted in and all do is put red dot on target.I am going to get one for my XDM.It is easy to install,took about 10 minutes.

[Folsom_Prison]

Originally Posted by Angry Fist

I like mine....

I need to get up with the times, however...

That looks bad***!!!!

[ede]

CMores pretty much rule competition in GSSF and USPSA. Carver Mounts makes a great product for mounting a varity of dots on Glocks. this is one i put together for my wife. my current race gun looks similar to this one.

[cevtv]

[Hicksville Kid]

Thanks, guys. Now I know it has been done and their are many ways to do it. Still can't imagine the g-forces on the optics on the slide mounted ones. The Carvers look a little klugey but I guess they do the job.

One thing that I can't figure out. How exactly do the dovetail mounts actually mount to the slide? I understand the dovetail part of it but the other plates and screws are vague. I can't find the detailed mounting instructions. Does it require d&t-ing the slide?

[bentbiker]

Originally Posted by Hicksville Kid

Still can't imagine the g-forces on the optics on the slide mounted ones.

One thing that I can't figure out. How exactly do the dovetail mounts actually mount to the slide? Does it require d&t-ing the slide?

You are right about the forces, and the cheap ones may not make it. However, use of a mount connected to the frame brings the variable alignment of slide-to-frame into the picture.

With the dovetail mounts, just picture a flat plate with the male dovetail going crosswise underneath. No d&t req'd. Just slide the dovetail into the dovetail slot and then screw the sight down to the plate. The Trijicon has two set screws to hold the dovetail in place, but they would not have been necessary on my install. There are slight variations in them, but they are pretty straightforward installations. The advantage is the ease of install; the disadvantage is the higher mounting position, the extra weight of the mount, and the cost of the mount if you eventually plan to mill the slide. I suspect you could resell the mount if you ever wanted to commit to the milled slide.

If you decide to buy a LW slide to have it milled, don't let LW do the milling. Pictures over in the optics forum show they don't do it well. And, if you sight it in at 12.5 yds, remember, it will shoot low at the muzzle and high at 25yds by the height of the dot above the bore; lower is better (flatter sighting).