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Old 12-07-2010, 20:27   #1
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Who is Federal loading this 10mm load for???

Federal has a 10mm Auto load in one of their Law Enforcement lines of ammo called "Ballisticlean® RHT®". They're using a 125gr bullet @ 1300fps claimed from a 5" test barrel.

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About Ballisticlean® RHT® they say;
"BallistiClean® RHT® features frangible RHT bullets that break-up immediately on contact with metal targets, significantly reducing ricochet and backsplash danger. All BallistiClean loads feature a copper-plated primer and an "NT" (non-toxic) head stamp to clearly identify BallistiClean as a training round at a glance, eliminating confusion with duty rounds."

So I get that it's primarily intended as a practice round. My question is; Who are they loading it for? Anybody know? Thoughts?
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:44   #2
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Me. A long time ago I went to an indoor, firearm training center with a realistic house layout and mannequin targets. (Valhalla outside of Telluride, CO) I was required to use green frangible ammo, but none was available in 10mm. I reluctantly had to exclude the G20 from the range ended up using a 1911 45acp. After laying down a few hundred $ for the indoor range experience (or should I say lack of experience with the G20) I whined really loud and apparently Federal heard my pleas for help.

Maybe a few other G20 nuclear holders asked for some indoor practice ammo too. Or, perhaps the ranges were getting tired or rebuilding berms and backstops after a single hit from a full power 10mm.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:00   #3
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Sure, it sounds weak on paper. But it's a 10mm! So, you know what that means. 10mm!
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:07   #4
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those arent very impressive numbers for a 10mm, 125gr. @ 1,300 fps? about 300 fps slower than what it should be.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:55   #5
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Originally Posted by cowboywannabe View Post
those arent very impressive numbers for a 10mm, 125gr. @ 1,300 fps? about 300 fps slower than what it should be.
400 fps slower if you;re loading to wimpy SAAMI standards and a lot slower if you're not.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:29   #6
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Can't say if they're loading the Sinterfire bullet, but you can get the SF40-155 RHFP through, if interested. It appears as though they simply re-sell SinterFire products, but I can't swear to this either. Check both sites for availability: A SF40-125 RHFP is also offered.

FWIW, I've shot the SF45-155 RHFP at steel plates from about 12 inches. No blowback, debris, nothing. Just like in their video. Not a recommendation for everyday firing, of course!
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From what I hear, the SIG Academy (in New Hampshire, I believe) requires frangible ammo in their ranges, but best to contact the venue instead of relying on my hearsay.

A local indoor range in Bridgeport, CT allows centerfire rifle use, as long as they clear your frangible ammo supply.

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Old 12-08-2010, 11:35   #7
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FBI HRT uses the MP5 in 10mm.
Maybe they like to use frangibles to train indoors with???
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Old 12-08-2010, 13:05   #8
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Someone who really wants an expensive .40 S&W round. I was thinking of buying some frangables in .357sig only beacause midway has them over half off.

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Old 12-11-2010, 18:30   #9
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Originally Posted by triggerjerk View Post
FBI HRT uses the MP5 in 10mm.
Maybe they like to use frangibles to train indoors with???
That was going to be my guess.
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