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Old 12-07-2010, 19:53   #1
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Black Nitride

Is this basically the same thing as Melonite?
I found a local company that does it and will probably try them to refinish project remington.

http://www.blacknitride.com/

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Old 12-07-2010, 19:57   #2
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It looks bit a smoother than Melonite, but its hard to tell from pics.
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Old 12-07-2010, 20:00   #3
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Gonna give them a call tomorrow to check on pricing.
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Old 12-07-2010, 20:02   #4
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I'd be interested to know... Nitride on the Sigs I have looks good and has always been very durable.
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Old 12-07-2010, 20:02   #5
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Don let me know what you find out about it. I think my RIA (same as the pic) would look good like that and maybe some wood grips or a set of nice black VZ grips.
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:08   #6
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I am thinking I might give them a call myself..as this looks like a viable alternative to Melonite..
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:10   #7
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the thread i found them on
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/m1911/1...k-nitride.html

There should be some places in CA that do it as well.
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:23   #8
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Anyone have any experience with this guy?
https://severnscustom.com/Hard_Hat_Treatment.html
I like the way this Hard Hat treatment looks.
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I sent him an email about the cost. I'll see what he says.
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:25   #9
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His Teni...., Meloni..... I mean HardHat treatment is top secret. Shhhhhhhhhhh.

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Old 12-07-2010, 21:25   #10
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:26   #11
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Anyone have any experience with this guy?
https://severnscustom.com/Hard_Hat_Treatment.html
I like the way this Hard Hat treatment looks.
I sent him an email about the cost. I'll see what he says.
Not personally, but it's supposed to be an excellent finish, and he's a very good 'smith too.
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:27   #12
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I've seen a few CBOBs done in HardHat and they look fabulous. Dave definitely does great work for sure.
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Old 12-07-2010, 21:31   #13
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I have seen his work on the Dan Wessons before. They do look good.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:57   #14
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Let us know the price it looks awesome.
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:38   #15
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Anyone have any experience with this guy?
https://severnscustom.com/Hard_Hat_Treatment.html
I like the way this Hard Hat treatment looks.

I sent him an email about the cost. I'll see what he says.
$350, including treating the barrel and up to 2 mag bodies, if you wish.
Turn around time is approx. 4 weeks at present
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:51   #16
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Black Nitride™, or Ferritic Nitrocarburizing, is the thermochemical that simultaneously diffuses nitrogen and carbon into the surface of ferrous metals
From that site you posted. Its seems that yep, basically the same thing as Melonite, Tennifer, ect.
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Old 12-08-2010, 13:38   #17
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I don't have time to look through all my files for specific definitions. Melonite is a salt bath ferritic nitrocarburizing, also known as liquid nitro-carburizing. "Black Nitride" can be a few things, differences being if it's a gaseous nitro-carburizing or liquid. Depending on the bath time & temperatures, one gets a thicker case depth and rockwell hardness. According to the website they're using liquid, so I'm assuming it's going to be close to melonite, tenifer, etc. I'm guessing their process is proprietary. Maybe I can get some specs on case depth & hardness if I send them a print & request for quote on a part I'm working on.

ETA: Quack, there's a company called Bodycote that I've used in the past for small & large batch melonite treatment, they do excellent work. There's a facility located in Livonia, Michigan, and London, Ohio. If my memory is correct, the London facility is the only one that does Melonite treatment though. I'll have to double check.

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Anyone have any experience with this guy?
https://severnscustom.com/Hard_Hat_Treatment.html
I like the way this Hard Hat treatment looks.
I sent him an email about the cost. I'll see what he says.
I had a CBOB done by him. It was okay, but in all truth I wasn't completely satisfied with the appearance of it. Some of the Melonite and IonBond guns I've seen are much nicer looking.
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I had a CBOB done by him. It was okay, but in all truth I wasn't completely satisfied with the appearance of it. Some of the Melonite and IonBond guns I've seen are much nicer looking.
Do you have any pictures of it? I would like to see a true picture and not something from the website.
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Old 12-08-2010, 19:35   #20
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Old 12-08-2010, 19:48   #21
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Thanks Awpk03s for the pictures but I have to ask why are you not happy with it? To me it looks great, but then again I am only looking at a picture.
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Thanks Awpk03s for the pictures but I have to ask why are you not happy with it? To me it looks great, but then again I am only looking at a picture.
There were a couple of smudge like marks - almost like fingerprints - in a couple of places on the slide. It looked very durable and all that, but the smudges would not come off no matter what.
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Old 12-08-2010, 21:26   #23
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I have had 2 of my Baers done by Dave Severns and I was very impressed with the work. Here is a different pic just so you can see it better.
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:40   #24
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Is this basically the same thing as Melonite?
I found a local company that does it and will probably try them to refinish project remington.

http://www.blacknitride.com/

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It looks like Grayguns' Super Black.

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It's held up extremely well on my P226ST with thousands of Kydex holster draws.

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